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Originals were Motorcraft AWSF 32F and these new ones are Motorcraft AGSF 32FM and they look like same but newones have about 10mm longer threds.
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Yes they did. Get the Autolite APP764 if you can over there. The ones you were sold are what Ford states to sell you. It is a fine wire NON double plat.
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Originally posted by Bulldog:
Originals were Motorcraft AWSF 32F and these new ones are Motorcraft AGSF 32FM and they look like same but newones have about 10mm longer threds.
dont test them, you will damage your pistons if you cant get the autolites get the motorcraft AWSF32PP
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I did put them in and they did´nt touch pistons, as sealcone is exactly at same distance from sparkplugs outter electrode at both plugs.
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Damage pistons?  They are correct Duratec plugs just not the best ones to use.
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they are?? oh i though they were too long nevermind then
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So these do´nt last as long that they should?
Or what is the difference?
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if they are for the duratec but not the correct ones they are most likely single platinum instead of double platinum, the singles dont last as long as the doubles
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Originally posted by gearhead98:
if they are for the duratec but not the correct ones they are most likely single platinum instead of double platinum, the singles dont last as long as the doubles
That is correct. I took the stock single plats out of my car at 60K miles and the ground electrodes were scalloped badly. They looked like little spoons that were "catching" the spark. The double plats will resist this premature wear & you'll not have to concern yourself with performance robbing plugs for a long time. 
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Ask the dealer for the following:
AGSF32PPM
AGSF32PP
AWSF32PP
Those are all double platinum plugs in the stock heat range.
The plug you listed (32F) is a non-coated single platinum fine wire plug in the stock heat range.
It will wear out 2-3 times as fast as a double platinum and DP's barely last 40-60k.
If you want to keep the throttle response benefits of a fine wire plug and want slightly better longevity then single platinum you could pay 3 times the price for Iridium plugs.
You would still have to check the gaps about once a year like any non-DP but if you are trying to pull every ounce out it might be worth it???
Forced induction guys should definitely think about it. Especially if you are running boost above 10psi. (Less resistance equals easier spark which is needed under greater cylinder pressure)
I still say it's hard to justify the 3 times price margin though unless you were heavily modified. I run 32PPM's myself but have tossed the idea around of going back to a fine wire plug.
For ref - the 22FS's (Fine wire platinum, enhanced standard ground) showed well above average wear after 20k. (15k - 35k engine mileage) They were regapped once about halfway.
They were run on a 00 SVT that saw crazy timing and rpm.
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It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.
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