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Originally posted by tbirdjayc:
hauling 3 200+ lbs buddies
them some big boys!!!
I know what you're saying and yes, that's a bit of weight, but keep in mind that brakes have advanced in the years as well. Your brakes aren't going to overheat from using them instead of downshifting, they might get slightly more used and wear out slightly faster, but I really don't think it's anything a daily driver should have to worry about. I throw mine in neutral occasionally when slowing down to a red light as well. usually I keep the clutch in, and just put it in the right gears as my speed and RPM's come down, then put her in 1st and piddle away once it's time to go.
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Originally posted by tbirdjayc:
Interestingly enough...I have posted this question on a few different makes forums. It seems the more performance oriented the car (WRX, EVO, 330, 350Z), the more people downshift. Also the more expensive the car, the more people seem to favor downshifting. I dont know what this suggests, or if it suggests anything at all. It's just interesting. Maybe the people driving more expensive cars are simply older, and stuck in their ways, i dont know.
Consesus seems to say taht slowing down your car in neutral is just blatantly wrong. You should never disconnect power from the drive wheels for any extended period of time. That isn't opinion, you are right or wrong. As far as downshifting, I always rev match, so clutch wear isn't a factor. Brakes can overheat and glaze if abused, especially if you are maybe hauling 3 200+ lbs buddies and going down a hill.
I really expected the majority of people to be in the favor of downshifting, im kinda suprised actually. I think some people have a lot to learn about how a car works, dynamics-wise. If in fact there is any credibility to saying that the Duratec, or MTX-75 can not handle "downshifting" well then i guess we have digressed quite a bit in the last 40 years. Since this was common practice back in the day. I will actually be placing a call to SVT tommorow and asking them. I don't know if they can or will give me an answer, but i'd like to know if im doing damage to my car by driving it the right way. Might be time for something new.
Its funny, you keep saying how 'we need to learn how a car works' and you cannot understand that brakes 'overheating' just does not happen anymore.
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Brakes can still overheat dude. That is how rotors warp. Can you prevent this with better pads, probably. BTW, we have not even touched on "brake fade" yet.
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Originally posted by tbirdjayc:
Is it really safe/good practice to not downshift when slowing?
Originally posted by tbirdjayc:
I really expected the majority of people to be in the favor of downshifting, im kinda suprised actually. I think some people have a lot to learn about how a car works, dynamics-wise. .
How can you post asking a question then when you don't get the answer you expected turn around and basically say those people don't know what they're talking about? If you already "knew" the answer as you seem to have portrayed why even bother asking the question?
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I'd say overall it's pretty 50/50. It lies in where you place the credibility.
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Originally posted by Sneaku:
How can you post asking a question then when you don't get the answer you expected turn around and basically say those people don't know what they're talking about? If you already "knew" the answer as you seem to have portrayed why even bother asking the question?
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Your not gonna damage your car either way. If you downshift real hard then yes you will prob. wear out your clutch faster than normal. Is it marginally safer to always be in gear? Probably.
But i can tell you this for sure. In my short 8 years of driving. I have never had anything "jump" out in front of me when i was getting off the freeway.
I think its all a matter of driving style.
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If your want to slow down use your brakes, if you want to downshift rev match to save your clutch and synchros... BTW I was under the impression that when a car is in gear with no load on the engine (foot off the accelerator) the engine will just pump air hence using less gas then idling in neutral 
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wow i skipped the to the 4th page right after the first. i cant see how this garbage made it this far. downshifting to brakes, i think ill try and turn this around a bit. down shifting is bad especially when you dont double clutch, the transfixed rotor housing on the impution rotator in the mtx-75 is fragile enough who would want to down shift and wear out the tensileation spatula when you have nuetral to begin with. and you wouldnt want to overheat those disc brakes either. dumba$$
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Originally posted by tbirdjayc:
Brakes can still overheat dude. That is how rotors warp. Can you prevent this with better pads, probably. BTW, we have not even touched on "brake fade" yet.
On a race track yes. Only time that would occur on the street is if your a retard and drive like an idiot, in that case hopefully the brakes will overheat causing you to crash crash crash into a ditch,,, just kidding. 
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