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Originally posted by sigma:
I wouldn't go so far as saying that "more sensitive" applies to just France and Germany though. Nor does "more sensitive" mean "bend to the will of".
I think it distills down to France & Germany though, perhaps Russia. The administration heavily lobbied those countries in the pre-war runnup...Colin Powell was a fequent visitor leading up to the war. Bush and Putin met several times, and seemed to have a good relationship- remember? Even a good dialog with China on this, impressive after the aircraft collision incident early in Bush's tenure. And China's help in negotiating with N.Korea in multilateral talks now is I think superb diplomacy. Recall the democratic outcries to conceed to N.Korea's demands for unilateral nule talks in 2002-03...more consessions! More "sensitivity"..
Never a closer relationship with UK/Blair & Bush (except maybe Churchill). Other allies came aboard..Spain, Italy, Australia, Poland, Japan, etc. etc. Even S.Korea...a first. Bush worked HARD on Turkey, Mexico's Vincente Fox & Canada..without much luck. Amazing results with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia...all things considered.
But France & Germany turned the UN security councel away from us. Recall France's abrupt turn after telling Powell that we had their support the day before.. It seems clear that at least in the beginning, bending to their will, letting France determine OUR response to a percieved threat to OUR country was the ONLY way to gain whatever co-operation they were going to provide. Bush said no to those terms. And I remain convinced that Kerry's sensitivity would allow him to pursue courses favorable to achieving E.U.s approval over our national security. This is why he scares me.....all his other liberal failings are reversible or balnced by congress. And all of Bush's failings are similarly fixable.
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One thing this post tells me for sure, besides who's going to win in November is this, theres more conservatives than I thought, great  Mega Dittos to you all, "talent on loan from God!"
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The Bush "bounce"...or is it a "bump" 
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Lets try and get to 200 votes 
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After last nights speech by Mr. Zell Miller, this voting poll should indicate the winner in November and its BUSH
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Interestingly....Bush is ahead in the CEG pole by 11% points....same % as the Newsweek and Times poles..
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Interestingly....Bush is ahead in the CEG pole by 11% points....same % as the Newsweek and Times poles..
What can I say, great minds think alike and BTW, no grudges after the election, ok guys 
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Originally posted by The Striped SVT:
After last nights speech by Mr. Zell Miller, this voting poll should indicate the winner in November and its BUSH
yeah, but how many of the pre-election polls are from florida? 
j/k, after seeing junk from both sides, i think i'll just go to the movies on election night. i'm not a liberal, yet i'm not rich, i just can't identify. i think a 3rd major party is in order. "conserabal" ?
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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