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Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
Not really. Your 'paradox' is based on the assumption that all Michael Moore does is make movies. If all he did was make movies, he wouldn't be 1/1,000,000th the person he is now (and that's still a pretty big piece of human). He's running his mouth off every chance he can get, creating "controversy", including at the Oscars. He's more Bill O'Reilly than he is Steven Spielberg. I don't need to see his movie to know what he stands for and to disagree with him.
Yea, what he said.
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I totally understand your point in the "photoshopping" he does.
One could argue the editing is more a humorous technique then anythign else. I dunno.
But hiding behind the photoshopping is just another EXCUSE to not discuss the real facts presented on the movie.
bin Laden connections ?
bin Ladens flying away ?
bin Ladens' money flowing into coorporations linked to Bush and friends ??
Contracts in Iraq ??
And the list goes on.
I think the movie is important for showing these facts.. and not for editing quotes. that is only my OPNION. If you want stick to the editing excuse and keep the shades on... it is okay with me.
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I know I only explained one of the many flaws of listening to the bull$hit, but it is a start, and a good one at that. Personally, if someone can actually come out with a movie and do the editing that he did, discredits the entire film. Shady shady indeed if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Davo7SVT: He's more Bill O'Reilly than he is Steven Spielberg.
That's a great distinction, and I wish more people would realize this... he's simply a politico that makes movies instead of tv shows... (Though he used to do decent stuff)... Spielberg is an artiste who has a craft and executes it to perfection. Moore is.... not.
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Originally posted by infinitemethod: I know I only explained one of the many flaws of listening to the bull$hit, but it is a start,
You did point out the most conflicting aspect of the movie. You were right.
But i wonder how you could "know more flaws" if you didnt even watch the movie.
so either watch the movie and post YOUR comments or stop reading reviews and posting copying them in here. It is not really THAT hard to think for yourself
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That is the thing though, I will not support something that is full of garbage. I won't give that homo my money in any respect. So that is why I have to rely on what I think of the guy and reviews, etc.... This is a good site full of contradicting stuff, http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/
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Originally posted by BBorges:
do you usually judge and rate things that you dont know or have not seen??
one does not have to have seen his latest piece of fiction in order to feel he is a douche. he has an entirely large catalog of slanted views that he has been dumping on the US populus for years. it's common sense to believe that his latest "piece" simply falls in line with the propoganda that he has been spewing for years. and for all intents and purposes, nearly everything that i've seen in the media regarding it supports that notion. 
i will not be buying a ticket to see it either.
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Originally posted by t-red2000se: I actually saw the movie, just so I could say, "I hate moore, i watched that crappy movie and i think the movie is a big lie because of this... this.. and that..."
And that is exactly why the man is rich. Damn near everyone who hates him pays to see his movie just so they can dispute it. It would not surprise me at all if he himself doesn't believe most of the stuff in his movie (nor do I really care what he believes) but he obviously knows what makes money. It's a MOVIE...since when is anything coming out of Hollywood factual anyway? I don't recall ever watching the Terminator and being worried that robots were gonna jump out of the future and come kill me. I personally don't care what Moore's movies are about; it's a free country. I just find it so funny that all the anti Moore people are playing right into his hand by paying to see his movie. Reminds me of back in the day when parents would buy up rap cds like 2LiveCrew just to burn them publicly...making the band filthy rich in the process.
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Ok people, first of all I do not value anyones opinion on a movie they have not seen, that is ignorant. You think Bownlingforthetruth.com and moorelies.com aren't spinning it just as much to the right as moore does to the left? So go see the movie before reading left or right spun reviews, then read both sides of reviews. Then go try and do some research and find out what the truth is.
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Originally posted by Sneaku: Originally posted by t-red2000se: I actually saw the movie, just so I could say, "I hate moore, i watched that crappy movie and i think the movie is a big lie because of this... this.. and that..."
And that is exactly why the man is rich. Damn near everyone who hates him pays to see his movie just so they can dispute it. It would not surprise me at all if he himself doesn't believe most of the stuff in his movie (nor do I really care what he believes) but he obviously knows what makes money. It's a MOVIE...since when is anything coming out of Hollywood factual anyway? I don't recall ever watching the Terminator and being worried that robots were gonna jump out of the future and come kill me. I personally don't care what Moore's movies are about; it's a free country. I just find it so funny that all the anti Moore people are playing right into his hand by paying to see his movie. Reminds me of back in the day when parents would buy up rap cds like 2LiveCrew just to burn them publicly...making the band filthy rich in the process.
Show me where I said I paid to see it.
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