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Originally posted by ouch:
At least your are getting job offers. My total interview tally = 0. No one wants to hire fresh college graduates nowadays.
I just got beat out of a job today by a guy like you!! 
It was at a performance engine rebuilder/machine shop. I knew, walking into the interview, that I did not really have the experience (current anyway) for the job, but it would be a great opportunity for me to get back into the mechanic's schene and the job would be just be plain fun. I mean come on, what would be better than building engines and installing them in hot rods all day 5 days a week!! Plus, I've only had two interviews in the past 2 months since I got laid off so I figured I had nothing to loose.
Anyway, I start talking with the guy and within 5 minutes he tells me that they are looking for someone with more experience. I politely tell him that I understand and make a comment about his rational reasoning, stand up to shake his hand and then he ask me, "So if you knew that you did not have the experience for the job, why did you come?". I start talking to him about how fun I thought the job would be and how I've always wanted a job like this... you know, that sort of stuff. Just plain relating to the guy. We ended up talking for about thirty minutes about all sorts of stuff and he says, "I tell ya what. Let me make a copy of your resume` and I will get back with you in a few days. How's that sound?" I tell him that he can have the resume, but for some unknown reason, he insists on getting a copy of it and letting me keep the original. We walk into the front office, to make the copy and wouldn't you know it... the copier goes out while one of the other employees was using it. Since worked for Xerox for the past 5 and half years, he looks and me says, "Well mister Xerox, do you think you can fix it?" Being very familiar with the machine and the problem it was having, I knew it was a goner'. I open it up and look at few things then told him that he could run back to Staple and buy a new one for less than what it would cost to fix this one. I again try to offer my original resume to him, but he still insists on a copy. This guy is plain anal!! "Ok!", I say. "I have a former customer a few miles down the road. I will go there, make you a copy and return with it." He says that would be great.
I return to a young man walking from the shop. He hops into an old beat up Mustang and drives off. I think to myself, "Must've been a customer." As I enter the office, the owner says to me, "Phillip, I am so sorry, but I had to hire that guy!" I of course replied, "Uh!". The owner of the shop continues, "Yeah, he has worked in his dads shop just about all his life. Plus, he just graduated from that community college over there and got some sorta degree or sumtin in machine shop. I really couldn't turn it down."
I was screaming inside, but on the outside, I smiled and handed him my copied resume. I told him that I completely understood, like I had said before. I then wished him the best of luck with his shop and new employee, turned and left. As I was getting in my car, the owner comes out and says, "Hey Phillip!. Look, call me in a few days. You never know, this guy might be a chump and not know a nut from a bolt. Would ya do that for me?" I told him, smiling of course, "If the guy doesn't work out, you call me. You have my resume. We will talk. If he does, then congradulations."
I do understand why he hired the guy though. I have not been a professional mechanic for over 7 years. So I don't have any hurt feelings. 
Perry, as far as I'm concerned, you did the right thing. I wouldn't worry about it. I do hate it when people do that though. And sorry for hijacking. I had to get it off my chest. 
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this makes me worry if i'll be able to find a good job right after i graduate college...
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Perry, it's a nasty business this job search. If it's any consolation, everyone goes through this to a great degree. An investment bank which shall remain unnamed was inteviewing me on and off for 5 months. I had 13 interviews... each about hour long. I had to complete a programming assignment (started at 9 p.m. finished 5 a.m. next morning) then reworked it over the weekend the way it should've been done and resubmitted. All that, for rather mediocre salary, but we never even got to that part!!! My 13th interview was w/ a partner (that would be a guy worth several millions a year, why the **** would he care to even know about a programmer in a group two blocks and 40 floors away?!!!) anyway... he didn't like me... by-by...
I was so mad because of all the time I lost and all the stress. And of course it wasn't helpful in terms of other searches, and of course at work they noticed some activity... that's never helpful.
In the end, I think I am better off not having that job.
As a side note, I think you have to do whatever is best for you. These guys didn't want to play honest, you had no moral obligation to play honest yourself. It's a totally different issue that you don't want to work w/ people who lie on the first day.
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That sucks Perry but it's probably gonna work out for the better for you.
And to encourage new graduates, a friend of mine is graduating and has already landed a job. He still has two classes he is finishing before he graduates, though he's been in college for years with multiple degrees. He's also been at his current job (same place as me) for eight years, so that shows he's a good worker and loyal. And he's going into accounting, and people always need accountants.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
you.
And to encourage new graduates, a friend of mine is graduating and has already landed a job. And he's going into accounting, and people always need accountants.
Accountants always land jobs early on. The accoutning firms scoop up all there people in the Oct-Dec. hiring blitz. And yes, Accountants are really needed right know as the Sarbanes-Oxley 404 attestation projects are being simultaneously conducted for every public company in the US with a market cap greater than 75-million. Next year its the small caps turn.
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perry- that HR process sounds sketchy. it's a good thing it fell through. if they use those tactics to solicit new talent, imagine how they treat the old dogs!
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Originally posted by Fmr12B:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
you.
And to encourage new graduates, a friend of mine is graduating and has already landed a job. And he's going into accounting, and people always need accountants.
Accountants always land jobs early on. The accoutning firms scoop up all there people in the Oct-Dec. hiring blitz. And yes, Accountants are really needed right know as the Sarbanes-Oxley 404 attestation projects are being simultaneously conducted for every public company in the US with a market cap greater than 75-million. Next year its the small caps turn.
I majored in accounting and computer information systems. It is just as ugly as the IT sector when it comes to getting a job in accounting. No one wants fresh graduates just for the sake of job experience.
I make $30-$40 an hour coaching tennis but I do need a proper day job. My day job right now pays $6.70 an hour to be a webmaster and accountant. I am getting ripped off badly but I have to start somewhere to gain work experience.
ps. it's no fun working for them either as I hate babysitting these adults that whine and fuss because they do not know how to use the computer and surf porn at work.
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I disagree, especially for public accounting.
The companies in this area are eager for the fresh college graduates and they recruit heavily in the local colleges.
They want people with minimal experience so they can mold them to the firm's specific needs and methods.
I'm not saying that there isn't a need for experienced people to fill positions as well, but I do know that firms around here are eager for new faces.
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I must be looking on the wrong places then. I have been apply for job after job on monster/careerbuilder and nothing has worked out for me yet.
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I guess I'm in the minority here, but considering you haven't worked in 7 months, I would have accepted the offer.. You could have still gone on the interview, and had you gotten it, bailed on the first company. I've seen it happen time and time again, it's nothing new, and as long as you never try to go work for the 1st company again, who cares if they think you're a "goon" or not?
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