http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/timeslips.phpCheck 'em out folks. AWD not good compaired to a FWD on eclipses? suuuuuuure. And look at how many 95+ are at the top of that list. There is a reason why the 92 and earlier ones are at the top of that list (and only 5 in the top 25 that are 95+). I have had a talon for 2 years now and have read a LOT on them. You can buy a decent used one for around $2500 and put $4000 in them and you are running mid to high 11's (most of the time that is without nitrus). The AWD is a huge factor two....you will not spin the tires out, so you can launch at almost any RPM. The engine is also bulletproof....I have 180,000 miles on it and it runs smooth. Also, getting aftermaket parts are sooooo easy to get it really isn't even funny. Putting them in is also easy because there is space under the hood, unlike the contour. I do own a 95 contour se with a five speed and it does go, but when you compair them to dsm's, a dsm is going to spank most of the contours out there....even SVTs. Sorry to break this news to you people. Heck, even the early nonturbo models people are getting those to 60 in a low seven seconds. They really are good cars....if you see one at a good price pick it up...I promise you won't be disappointed. Thanks for letting me ramble!