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#1006467 07/19/04 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
If the media admitted their biases, I'd have no problem with them. Media is a capitalist enterprise, therefore they have no obligation whatsoever to present the "news" in one way or another. My problem is that they continue to deny the bias, misleading millions of people. People are becoming smarter and smarter, and B.O., Rush, Hannity, and all other counter-liberal media are evidence of that.




In that one aspect we differ. Journalistic integrety has gone down the toilet to such an extend that we no longer hold these clowns accountable??

If they want to slant things in order to serve their capitalistic masters, then they need to put out an alternative. A magazine themed to their views, or package a news analysis program in such a way that it is palatable to the American public. But to present a "News Broadcast" and bias their reporting to such a degree, they should lose their FCC license.

Now don't take this as a afront to the freedom of speach, but rather a wake up call that ENCOURAGES the freedom of speach and public debate. I don't want them shut down, but rather if they want to broadcast, then let's have all of the news, not just the portion they want us to hear.

Gee, that almost sounds like THEY are squashing other peoples freedom of speech, doesn't it... ironic.

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Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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the liberal media and democratic media are ruining our young. I see this everywhere i go. Everyone is making uneducated decisions on everything. I am only 20 but i make it my point to watch both sides of the media and then make my decision. When i watch fox news i see what is going on, when i watch the other news i see nothing but bush bashing and blaming. Everything that is going on right now is being blamed on bush. Like lots of people say we have no jobs, and that we were better of with clinton, yet the numbers show the contrary. People need to realize that times are changing and that its not our president who is ruining us, we are ruining ourselves. Corporate america is outsourcing faster and faster,thats the reason we are losing many jobs. And we as people just cant get along, like we cant have the word god in public places. Thats b.s. im not religious and i dont give a flying Fack if the word god was painted all over the world. We are becoming nothing but a bunch of lying, bitchen, sacks of shix. We are becoming FRENCH. Screw that, we need to stop that. we are going to kill this country.


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The same media that puts Joe Wilson on a golden pedestal and kisses his feet when he spouts off about how the intelligence about Iraq buying uranium from Niger is bogus also runs and hides when it is revealed that he pretty much made everything up. Well, they didn't run and hide, they just ignored the story.

But I could go on for days about media bias...

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Originally posted by lsneo:
We are becoming FRENCH.




Them's fitin' words, young man!


Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
http://thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040719&s=coleweb

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I decided to go one step further: "It seems to me like the pot calling the kettle black, Bill, because I just sat here five minutes ago as you re-recorded the introduction to this show to take out a statement from the head of the 9/11 commission stating that there was no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11."





So. Does Fox News have anyone to balance out O'Reilly, or is that other networks responsibility?


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And to continue revealing the spin meister O'Reilly, let's look up transcript July 16th show:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125958,00.html
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That's nine mentions of conservatives being for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Now if you read the articles, it's obvious what "The Times" is doing. Anyone who opposes gay marriage is labeled a conservative




No. It means people who are for Constitutional Amendment on the matter, are most likely Conservatives. If the NYT article even talked about gay marriage itself, O'Reilly certainly did not mention it. And that "majority of Democrats in America oppose gay marriage" doesn't mean jack when it comes to Constitutional Amendments.




Awwwww. Did you and your wibewal fwiends forget that Bill O'Reilly is a commentator, not a journalist?

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Originally posted by PackRat:
Awwwww. Did you and your wibewal fwiends forget that Bill O'Reilly is a commentator, not a journalist?



Ted Koppel let some swill about Hannity being a journalist leak out of his mouth. I guess they start to think everyone claims to be a journalist like they do.

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lsneo, just wanted to mention about the word of God not allowed in public places usually has to do with Government places. I am Christian myself, but the government can not endorse any religion. Plus as a Christian I know the bible states spread the word but do not force it upon non-believers. So when you only teach Christianity aren't you forcing students to believe that the bible is fact? Are you giving the student the oppertunity to choose to be a Christian or not? Can you teach every religion? No, and that is why there is no endorsement of religion by the US government. That is where it's become a little more cloudy then can we have a bible verse on a wall or not. And on another note I do blame the people in power because of the state that we are in right now. I have made an informed decision about what I think of the current admin. and I think they have done a lot wrong. But yes you are right that the outsourcing of jobs is killing us. The problem is jobs used to go to other countries 30 years ago, but we just had better and more hightech products. Plus service industry jobs like call centers hardly ever went over seas. We either need to make it more lucrative for employers to keep jobs here or come up with something that the US alone can produce that the world wants.


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Bill O'Reilly is a blowhard like Micheal Moore.

Oh, what happened to the people with integrity and pride like Uncle Walt.

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Originally posted by ODC:
Oh, what happened to the people with integrity and pride like Uncle Walt.




Uncle Walt, as in Cronkite? Yeah, there's some unbiased, credible integrity there... "And that's the way (we want you to think) it is..."

Speaking of unbiased, it's nice to see that Air America is (still) floundering. They pulled a one-something compared to Rush's four-point-something recently -- and I think that was in NYC! Maybe the market is finally saturated with enough liberal wackjob, Hate America First networks...

On another, if somewhat off-topic -- but positive -- note, distinguished politcal expert Linda Ronstadt got herself 86'd from the Aladdin in Las Vegas on Saturday. "In a bizarre performance notable for its bridge-burning comments, Ronstadt inflamed more than her Aladdin audience on Saturday by taking potshots at Las Vegas and dedicating "Desperado" to "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker Michael Moore." That's it LinDUH -- bite the hand that feeds you. It truly is a beautiful thing to see these buffoons getting reprimanded for injecting their political views into non-political events. People like Rush get criticized for even having the views they do, but the libs are supposed to get a pass when they start bashing America? HA! I don't think so! The First Amendment guarantees your right to free speech. It does NOT, however, guarantee you an audience.

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Why do you think Air-America hates America? Is it's because they are critical of America that they hate America? Thomas Jefferson said it best "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.". Just because the people over at Air-America have just as valid and cogent message that you do not agree with does not mean they hate America. Indeed I believe these people who critical of what has happened in this nation are infinitely more Patriotic then those who blindly follow the right or the left wing.


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