Yes that is what I'm talkin about in the first pic. See how you can see alot of
the muffler where it attaches to the exhast pipe right inside the bumper. The muffler itself is bigger in diameter then the pipe coming throught the bumper. IIRC you dont see that on the stock exhaust...all you see is the pipe coming out the hole in the bumper. Maybe the exhaust in that pic is mounted lower than stock or is that just the look of that particular setup? It does seem to hang lower though which would be a concern for lowered cars. I Persoanlly just like seeing the pipe w/out seeing the all that muffler. The oval muffler picture you posted might infact be the the answer to what im talking about. Since it is flat on the bottom this might "hide" the muffler more behind the back bumper so all you see is the pipe exiting the bumper (which is what i like
