by the way, the are the race series 14842 (i believe). 6" body, 4" tips. i dont recall the res. part number off the top of my head.
i was a little wary of ordering from them since they were so cheap (when my installer told me he couldnt get them that cheap). i found them off of a link from the magnaflow website, so i figured they had to be stand up since the were linked to from there. but, the bottom line is i had a very good experiance with this vendor and was just trying to pass on the hookup.
