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I think he is. Along with this movie that I have not seen, will not see.
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Think? No...I know he is.
He prays on the mindless in America.
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A lying scumbag.
Can't understand what motivates someone like him...Oh Yeah, money and the high regard of the French.
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Originally posted by infinitemethod: I think he is. Along with this movie that I have not seen, will not see.
do you usually judge and rate things that you dont know or have not seen??
how does that work? Do you base your judgements on your past experiences or it is just pure ignorance??
Regarding Moore, i dont care about him and i do respect you opnion about him.
now I do appreciate his work in the sense that it is THE ONLY differential between here, the USA, and China. Over there u get killed for expressing your beliefs, here you dont (well... u do get your reputation destroyed... it seems a lot of people would rather have a controlled media instead).
But what really intrigues me is how your preconceived image of the director makes you already hate the movie you have not even seen!!
That is a paradox: do you hate Moore because of his movies but you dont even watch the movies !!!
how could that possibly be ??
IMO, it would be way more rational to come here and say: "I hate moore, i watched that crappy movie and i think the movie is a big lie because of this... this.. and that..."
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I actually saw the movie, just so I could say, "I hate moore, i watched that crappy movie and i think the movie is a big lie because of this... this.. and that..."
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It works like this. I know that is bad to just call it like that and I haven't even seen the movie, though I've read up on all of his "facts" from the movie from different websites and what not. Basically from what I've read and feel like these are good sources, the whole thing is just taking things out of context. Now my opinion is if you take something out of context, which he did in every way in his movie, that makes it a lie. I have multiple examples of this, but I'll just leave you with this....
"But for the moment, allow me to address the film??s final scene, a montage of clips ??demonstrating? that ??Bush lied? about Iraq??s supposed connection to 9-11; that the American people??a trusting, if simple, group??were bunched into connecting ??secular Saddam? to the zealots of Al-Qaeda. Let??s be clear about this, for it bears repeating: the administration has repeatedly and forcefully connected Iraq and Al-Qaeda??and, as recent evidence has shown, for good reason. What the administration has not done??contrary to popular belief??is publicly link Iraq to the attacks of September 11.
But, you protest, I saw Condoleezza Rice in Fahrenheit 9-11 tell a reporter that, ??indeed,? there was a relationship!
ROLL FILM:
??Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11.?
CUT.
Pretty damning stuff, isn??t it? But that was the truncated, Michael Moore version. Now for the full, unexpurgated quote:
??Oh, indeed there is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11. It??s not that Saddam Hussein was somehow himself and his regime involved in 9/11, but, if you think about what caused 9/11, it is the rise of ideologies of hatred that lead people to drive airplanes into buildings in New York.?
Well that??s a different quote, Mike. So why the editing?
Lee from Moorewatch challenges any Moore supporter to explain this as anything other than a propaganda lie.
Mike has taken a Condi quote and given it the polar opposite meaning from what she actually said. Now, Moore fans, consider this. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of video of Condi Rice talking about Iraq. If Condi had ever actually said that there was a tie between Iraq and 9/11 then Moore would have used it. So, if the Bush administration had ever actually claimed that there was a connection between 9/11 and Iraq, why would Michael Moore feel the need to use these kind of editing tricks to try and prove his point?
Because nobody ever said it, and he damn well knows it. His entire premise is based on a lie"
This is just one example of what he did throughout the entire movie. I will not see a movie that is full of bull$hit, sorry. He totally flipped the script so to speak and people are actually listening to this homo.
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Originally posted by BBorges: That is a paradox: do you hate Moore because of his movies but you dont even watch the movies !!!
Not really. Your 'paradox' is based on the assumption that all Michael Moore does is make movies. If all he did was make movies, he wouldn't be 1/1,000,000th the person he is now (and that's still a pretty big piece of human). He's running his mouth off every chance he can get, creating "controversy", including at the Oscars. He's more Bill O'Reilly than he is Steven Spielberg. I don't need to see his movie to know what he stands for and to disagree with him.
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Originally posted by BBorges: now I do appreciate his work in the sense that it is THE ONLY differential between here, the USA, and China. Over there u get killed for expressing your beliefs, here you dont (well... u do get your reputation destroyed... it seems a lot of people would rather have a controlled media instead).
And how exactly does that work.
I don't recall a slanderous movie by the vicious republican hate machine about M&M boy. He is casting stones in a glass house, so when the walls around him get smashed, he has only himself to blame.
Plenty of room for civil discourse, coherant arguments, and even heated debate on the issues. Baseless personal character attacks, lies, slander, and use of theatrical trickery to bemuse the weak minded is definately not called for. Especially when you're talking about the office of the Presidency (oops, was that a slip? weak minded & Presidency in the same paragraph...). There is more at stake here than M&M boys personal ideology. He just doesn't get it.
And yeah, he's a douche.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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