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Originally posted by acrdklr:
good lord this is rediculous(sp?)!
the "ladies night" is based on pure economics:
-the men will go where the women are
-given the choice, women (and men for that matter) are more likely to go somewhere popular when it is free versus having to pay for it
-so the more women a bar or club can get to attend the more men are likely to show up.
-the more people in attendence the greater are the chances of mingling
-ect, ect, ect,
-basic economics
The problem is that you're not thinking like a tax official. You're thinking like a bar owner. The amount drunk isn't going to go down; no tax loss there. True, there will be some that will drop away from the bar scene, but I'm willing to bet the amount of revenue on cover charges will MORE than make up for the one's that don't want to pony up $5-10 just to get into the door...
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i dont know if you guys encounter this much but all the clubs around here at 21 for guys to get in and 18 for girls and one night during the week its 18 for guys. now thats b.s.
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Originally posted by svtcarboy:
Well, I persoanlly don't think it's right for an establishment to price their product differently to people just due to a demographic.
For this reason, I oppose senior discounts.
To me... ideas like "skirt nights" that give the discounts to anyone wearing a skirt are a lot more fun, not based specifically on a demographic (man/woman/age...) and accomplish much the same result.
However, as much as I may not like them, there is no requirement for someone to go to a specific bar/nightclub on a given night, so government has no place getting involved in this issue.
I completely agree with you, but there are some instances, like senior discounts, where prices are (need to be) based on demographics. How many pancakes can grandma really eat at the buffet line? It wouldn't be right to charge granny, who can eat two, the same price they charge me, who puts down a dozen. Also, insurance premiums are based on demographics as well. Granny would need to fork over much more for a life insurance policy than I would.
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Quote:
Bill of Rights
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I'm no expert, but I think these people have the right to have any sort of night they want, whether it be ladies night, latino night, white middle class office monkey's night, or men's night. If a business does that and it offends you, then don't file a lawsuit or protest - just don't go to their business anymore. People in America REALLY need to stop being such whiney little b*tches.
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
People in America REALLY need to stop being such whiney little b*tches.
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
Quote:
Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I'm no expert, but I think these people have the right to have any sort of night they want, whether it be ladies night, latino night, white middle class office monkey's night, or men's night. If a business does that and it offends you, then don't file a lawsuit or protest - just don't go to their business anymore. People in America REALLY need to stop being such whiney little b*tches.
I see nothing in the amendment prohibiting or restricting free assembly or free exercise of an establishment.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
The problem is that you're not thinking like a tax official. You're thinking like a bar owner.
What's good for the bar owner is good for the tax official, unless the bar owner is not reporting revenue. It doesn't matter to the tax official whether the revenue is coming in from the door or the alcohol. And the bar owner won't discriminate from the revenue source either.
Since the income tax is calculated on profit, it would be in the tax collector's best interest to allow the bar to operate in a manner that maximizes profit. If the bar didn't feel that having such a promotion maximizes profit, it simply would not run said promotion. Unless the tax collector knows for a fact that ladies' night hurts profits and is foring the bar to abandon that idea, in which case the tax collectors should be running the bars too.
In the case of sales tax collectors, are sales taxes even applicable to cover charges? Even if they were, cover charges are pure profit, whereas alcohol sales incur some cost of originally buying the alcohol, so from a sales tax collection POV, it'd be in their advantage to allow the bars to make a majority of their profits from alcohol sales (by offering some sort of free cover, and making up profits in alcohol sales) than it would be for them to make money from cover and sell less booze.
If I'm not making sense, it's because I'm a bit boozed up at this moment  (and yes I had to pay cover at one of the bars)
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Bars in El Paso are contemplating eliminating Ladies Nights because it's considered discriminatory and has been found to be in states such as California and New Jersey.
Since the only guys who could ever complain about ladies nights being discriminatory must be gay or have no balls, I'm wondering what your opinions are on the matter.
I think you summed it up very well yourself.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Say that cover charge is only $5.00 (I'm being conservative here).
yeah you are.
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