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A fellow 'tour owner has a CEL - P1380 & P1381 #953895 05/12/04 04:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Hamilton, Ontario T TsaiShen_dup1 OP CEG\'er
OP TsaiShen_dup1 CEG\'er T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 191 Hamilton, Ontario	Hello All... A fellow work colleague has a '98 contour that is throwing the following codes. P1380 - VCT Solenoid Valve circuit Short or Open. P1381 - Cam Timing Advance is excessive. She just starting getting these codes and the stealership is saying "...the car drives fine, we can't find anything wrong, keep driving it and if the light doesn't go away put tape over it..." Can you believe this?! Has anyone had experience with these codes before? I have a '95 and have never seen these before.... '95 Contour SE - MTX All stock...except for my Canadian Tire cup holder 270,000 kms (April 2004) GO BABY GO!

Re: A fellow 'tour owner has a CEL - P1380 & P1381 #953896 05/12/04 08:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 287 M Monk CEG\'er
Monk CEG\'er M Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 287	Hehe funny! I've been told something similar by a Chevy dealer. AS per my experience, most of the CELs I've gotten haven't made a lick of difference. I usually reset the PCM to see if it comes back...if not then you're good to go. To reset it, either d/c the (-) battery terminal or pull out fuses 4 and 11 for 30 seconds or so.

Re: A fellow 'tour owner has a CEL - P1380 & P1381 #953897 05/12/04 09:52 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,725 Grand Rapids, Michigan - Chica... H HITMANinMI Hard-core CEG\'er
HITMANinMI Hard-core CEG\'er H Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,725 Grand Rapids, Michigan - Chica...	Originally posted by TsaiShen: P1380 - VCT Solenoid Valve circuit Short or Open. P1381 - Cam Timing Advance is excessive. I think someone had this before, their timing belt became streched out and and messed up the cam timing. I think a new timing belt would fix it.

Re: A fellow 'tour owner has a CEL - P1380 & P1381 #953898 05/12/04 11:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,408 R Rogerm60 Hard-core CEG'er
Rogerm60 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,408	Originally posted by HITMANinMI: Originally posted by TsaiShen: P1380 - VCT Solenoid Valve circuit Short or Open. P1381 - Cam Timing Advance is excessive. I think someone had this before, their timing belt became streched out and and messed up the cam timing. I think a new timing belt would fix it. Sorry but no, the VCT solenoid has burned out or the wiring has a fault. Use a meter to check the VCT coil at the connector on top of the valve cover. If it is open, it should be replaced. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" -George Santayana

Re: A fellow 'tour owner has a CEL - P1380 & P1381 #953899 05/13/04 03:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 32 T trob_dup1 New CEG\'er
trob_dup1 New CEG\'er T Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 32	You might want to try this troubleshooting step: While the engine is idling, disconnect the electrical plug going to the solenoid. I believe that if the VCT is working the smoothness of the idle should change indicating that the VCT is doing something.

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