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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Duratec (standard) has +45 HP and about +30T. Given the same tranny you could not help but notice a big difference. At least 1.0 sec in the 1/4th.. Zetec a bit better on gas but not much with both giving 30+ MPG highway.
More parts for zetec but even with big bux a N/A zetec will be hard pressed to outperform a Duratec with bolt ons.. One guy spent $5000 IIRC to get a British Zetec to 165 FWHP N/A...same as a stock SVT Duratec.
I wouldn't go that far...if you spend your money the right way, that space between duratec power and zetec power closes considerably
I personally would be pissed at myself spending 5G's for 165whp, thats a rip off if you ask me as you could have easily had a turbo setup for that price.
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Originally posted by Cris'pus:
The Butt Dyno was good when I tested friends Duratec, and nicer sound.
Mine stock was about .3 sec slower than atx V6's in ¼ mile. The stock Zetec atx can't brake 16's I believe, yet.
I ran a 16.9.....but not stock. 
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
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Originally posted by hetfield:
Originally posted by Cris'pus:
With this fact, they did publish better numbers but, I've driven both and I don't feel 45Hp faster.
Let the flaming begin.
I really can't comment directly on that, since I've only driven Duratecs, but I can attest to the difference between a non-SVT Duratec w/ ATX and an SVT w/ MTX. The butt dyno shows a noticeable difference.
At the track back in August for the national meet, a non-SVT Duratec w/ MTX ran about 2-3 seconds faster than a Zetec w/ ATX in the quarter mile. However, I'm sure the tranny accounted for a good part of that difference, so its not really a fair comparison. Plus, the Zetec was Hector's, and I think he was having some timing issues at the time.
Still having timing issues.....getting that fixed soon....we will need to go to the track.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
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Originally posted by moxnix:
Not in my family they don't.
96 Mystique Zetec ATX - water pump blew at about 120K and my brother kept driving and blew the engine.
95 Mystique Duratec MTX - Water pump blew at 150K my parents noticed it and got off the road and to a shop. Car worked fine for another 10K until my brother got in a accident with it.
The 96 Zetec had many more issues during it's life than the 95 Duratec.
Sounds more like your brother just needs to quit driving them rather than they're unreliable. 
Jonathan
'96 Contour Zetec MTX
208,XXX miles
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I have a zetec. I once raced a cougar with the 2.5 duratec. He could even keep up. I don't know if it was b\c he is atx and i am mtx, or weight, or what, but he was pissed. The cougar was a loner thought. He had a 98.5 csvt that kicked my ass. 
99 Zetec Neon under body
Removed ding guards
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Originally posted by 99ztech:
I have a zetec.
I once raced a cougar with the 2.5 duratec. He could even keep up. I don't know if it was b\c he is atx and i am mtx, or weight, or what, but he was pissed.
The cougar was a loner thought. He had a 98.5 csvt that kicked my ass.
My 99SE ATX can't keep up with a LoCoZ modded ATX Zetec. But my 95 SE MTX has no problem at all. The mtx always helps, its makes the zetec put down damn near the same numbers at the Duratec with an ATX.
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Originally posted by Cris'pus:
The Butt Dyno was good when I tested friends Duratec, and nicer sound.
Mine stock was about .3 sec slower than atx V6's in ¼ mile. The stock Zetec atx can't brake 16's I believe, yet.
18's
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
CEG Dragon Run - October 13-15
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by Cris'pus:
The Butt Dyno was good when I tested friends Duratec, and nicer sound.
Mine stock was about .3 sec slower than atx V6's in ¼ mile. The stock Zetec atx can't brake 16's I believe, yet.
18's
speaking of 18s (thread hijack in progress)
one time at the track, there was this dude, i know him from gradeschool but ahvent seen him in years. he was always full of BS, more so than anyone i know, and acts like a total hardass
well he had a cavalier, with lots of vynil, nasty chrome rims, the worst intake EVER (went over top of engine and filter sat right above exhaust manifold IIRC), and a system.
i remember sitting in the staging lanes and seen him run 18.5s, i started laughing so hard i almost couldnt race!!
Russell
Oval Port 3L Nearly Done
MTX75 w/ Homebrew Zetec FD and Torsen Complete
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Mine with a short ram intake ran an 18.2. ATX zetec. They be slow dawg.... real slow...
95 Mystique GS Zetec ATX: Dead - Dec 5th, 2003
94 Accord LX 2.2L MTX Non-Vtec. Few bolt ons.
02 Escape XLT 3.0 V6 ATX. This thing has the CD4E in it?! What the hell was ford thinking?
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A car slower than mine,,,, sweeeeeeet.
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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