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#861769 02/03/04 03:58 PM
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About a month ago I was out in Philly just crusin around, and there was an real tight exit ramp so I said hell with it. Took it faster than I've taken anything so far with this car. I was amazed to say the least these cars are on freakin rails. Anyways about half-way through the turn (which was a right) at about 35 I gunned it into second to have the oil light come on and the car kinda "stall". As if it went from 200hp to about 50 for just a split second. So I let off of course. Then being the tool I am I nailed it again (I was still in the turn) and the thing does it again. MI checked the oil right after it was less than half a quart low, hardly low at all. My question being is this usually the case with the oil starvation problems in these cars? Problems happening in turns like that? And if not any ideas what it might have been. And how damaging could something like that have been. I'm pretty scared to push it too much at this point which I should'nt have to be. I'm kind of puzzled.

Edit- My fault I meant to put this in troubleshooting. I need some sleep.

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Yes this is a known issue. Many Duratec (not just SVT Duratec) owners fill their engines to 6 quarts (1/2 quart above the max line) to counteract oil starvation on sweeping right-hand turns. Its still not guaranteed to prevent the problem, but it will help.


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I'd start saving for that 3L swap, 'cause with 2 close instances of clear oil starvation like that your rod bearings are just itching to spin

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That sudden loss of power was a rod bearing spinning most likely.

It may have reseated but I would be saving up for a 3L swap.

Even at 6 qts the oil pan has very little oil in it above 6000rpm. At 5 qts it was most likely empty.

If you go full 3L swap you get the 3 extra oil drains they added to help that problem. (hybrids do not! )


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Originally posted by SmoothSVT:
About a month ago I was out in Philly just crusin around, and there was an real tight exit ramp so I said hell with it. Took it faster than I've taken anything so far with this car. I was amazed to say the least these cars are on freakin rails. Anyways about half-way through the turn (which was a right) at about 35 I gunned it into second to have the oil light come on and the car kinda "stall". As if it went from 200hp to about 50 for just a split second. So I let off of course. Then being the tool I am I nailed it again (I was still in the turn) and the thing does it again. MI checked the oil right after it was less than half a quart low, hardly low at all. My question being is this usually the case with the oil starvation problems in these cars? Problems happening in turns like that? And if not any ideas what it might have been. And how damaging could something like that have been. I'm pretty scared to push it too much at this point which I should'nt have to be. I'm kind of puzzled.

Edit- My fault I meant to put this in troubleshooting. I need some sleep.




textbook oil starvation, i run 7 quarts and a k/n filter


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I thought you're not supposed to overfill it at all. I put exactly 5.8 quarts in mine so I dont go over. You guys sure it won't hurt if it's a 1/2 qt over?? Spun rod bearing are usually not an issue with the regular duratecs. It's usually the Svt's that have that problem. I have not seen a regular 2.5 yet with a spun rod bearing due to oil starvation.


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I've never seen a 3.0L Duratec in a Taurus/ Sable with the oil starvation issue that seems to plague the 2.5's.

Have a search on Taurusclub.com for this problem. It's non-existent in the 3.0L Duratec's stock form.



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Originally posted by 2KSESport:
I thought you're not supposed to overfill it at all. I put exactly 5.8 quarts in mine so I dont go over. You guys sure it won't hurt if it's a 1/2 qt over?? Spun rod bearing are usually not an issue with the regular duratecs. It's usually the Svt's that have that problem. I have not seen a regular 2.5 yet with a spun rod bearing due to oil starvation.




they say to much oil can get whiped up by the crank and airation can occur but i figure theres a 1/2 quart in the filter and probably a quart circulating throu the engine while its running at idle that would leave about 5 1/2 quarts in the pan,also i race alot and when the engine is running abouve 5000 rpm through the quarter mile at the end of the track there might only be a quart left in the sump.


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Can you drive a Taurus/ Sable fast enough aroound to cause the problem? I don't think I could with may 99 but it is also a station wagon.

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Originally posted by 2KSESport:
I thought you're not supposed to overfill it at all. I put exactly 5.8 quarts in mine so I dont go over. You guys sure it won't hurt if it's a 1/2 qt over?? Spun rod bearing are usually not an issue with the regular duratecs. It's usually the Svt's that have that problem. I have not seen a regular 2.5 yet with a spun rod bearing due to oil starvation.


That .2 of a quart is not nearly enough to overfill. You can spin a bearing just as easily on the standard duratec if the conditions are right. It is not just an SVT problem.


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