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Originally posted by KTPdave:
Roush are the same height as stock.




No... they're not


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Originally posted by todras:
Struts aren't going to affect your ride height. Only the springs will.




unless theyre accidentally manufactured differently than stock. Which is hard to believe, especially for bilstein but...

It is possible. Think if you will, The perch that the spring sits in: if that perch is higher up on the shock tube than stock, the car will be raised however much that perch is. The springs under the weight of the car remains compressed the same, but their position on the shock tube will indicate ride height. The top of the spring simply goes up and down with the shock piston, so if the plate is 1" higher, the 'deadzone' (position at rest) of the piston is 1" higher as well. if i were any good with mspaint id draw it.

There's another post where someone installed bilsteins and H&R's and only claimed a 3/4" drop when its supposed to be 1.5" or so.

It takes too much effort to worry or be upset about it. im going to live with it.

And no, Roush springs certainly aren't the same height as stock. except for me (yet).


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The Bilstein struts have roughly a 1" shorter arm. While this makes them ideal for lowered vehicles it "does not" lower the vehicle any itself.


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did you get to install yours yet? dont mean to scare anyone out of doing so.


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Originally posted by KTPdave:
Roush are the same height as stock.



And my car magically lowered itself after I installed roush springs.


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It's common knowledge in the VW world that Bilsteins will raise a car up about 1/4" to 1/2" inch over a regular strut.

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IIRC, Bilstein is a high gas pressure strut, while the OEM are low pressure. The gas pressure is used to reduce oil foaming and loss of damping in the strut. With more aggressive valving, High performance struts tend to have higher gas pressures to keep faoming down. The valving causes higher oil velocities inside the strut which could cause more foaming if the pressure wasn't high.




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Originally posted by Zip-Zap-Pow!:
It's common knowledge in the VW world that Bilsteins will raise a car up about 1/4" to 1/2" inch over a regular strut.



That's because they support weight like a spring right...

...even though the strut arm is 1" shorter then the OEM one's too right


(for reference the first one was sarcastic and the second one factual - I'm multitasking tonight )


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Maybe I should have clarified a bit but Contouraholic was right - a high pressure gas strut like a Bilstein will raise the effective spring rate just a bit - enough to raise the ride height. It's basicly pushing back against the car's weight, helping the spring carry the load.

Extended free length of the strut has nothing to do with ride height. Once a load is placed on the spring/strut combo the only thing determining ride height is going to be the effective spring rate. I'm sure the Bilstein's 1" shorter damper shaft length is moot when loaded with vehicle weight. We don't go driving around at max travel now do we. If we did jacking our cars up would be a breeze as there would be no sag travel to work thru before the wheel left the ground.

If we were talking about total droop travel, the Bilstein would have less than the stock struts. This may help keep shorter than stock free length springs (like the BAT ones) from rattling when going thru a big dip in the road, but will not effect how much travel the car has from it's standard ride height before bottoming out. A shorter damper body does that.

As I mentioned before it's common knowledge in the VW world (where Bilsteins are widely used and have been for years) that they can raise the ride height a bit when compared to low pressure units like the stock SVT struts.



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Struts inherently pull the shaft in not push it out! A higher valved strut means that the valve reduces the flow of fluid around the shaft limiting the springs range more than a .

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