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I apologize if this has been answered before, I looked through the archives but still not clear on this.
Do I need the friction modifier with Ford's new synthetic tranny fluid? (XT-M5-QS)
'99 SVT
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Off the top of my head, I think with the "honey" you don't need the FM. You only need the FM with synthetic Mobil 1, I think.
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I started off with the straight Ford "honey", but shifting was worse than with the Mobil1 / FM cocktail.
I since added 2 oz. of FM to the Ford fluid, and shifting is much better than it ever was with the cocktail.
Hope this helps.
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You need the FM with Mobil 1 or honey.
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Originally posted by kinger:
You need the FM with Mobil 1 or honey or Red Line.
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I also have the Ford "honey" with friction modifier. It works very well.
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Originally posted by weargle:
Originally posted by kinger:
You need the FM with Mobil 1 or honey or Red Line.
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THE REDLINE MTL HAS FRICTION MODIFIER IN IT. Kinger posted that for a reason.
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Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by weargle:
Originally posted by kinger:
You need the FM with Mobil 1 or honey or Red Line.
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THE REDLINE MTL HAS FRICTION MODIFIER IN IT. Kinger posted that for a reason.
I suspect that the Red Line doesn't have enough friction modifier, if it did, it would shift as good as the Mobil 1 cocktail, ATF+3, or Ford "honey" with friction modifier.
You should realize that there is some level of friction modifier in many trans fluids. Mercon has friction modifier in it, but not enough.
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Originally posted by Big Jim:
I suspect that the Red Line doesn't have enough friction modifier, if it did, it would shift as good as the Mobil 1 cocktail, ATF+3, or Ford "honey" with friction modifier.
You should realize that there is some level of friction modifier in many trans fluids. Mercon has friction modifier in it, but not enough.
I feel the Redline MTL shifts much better then the Mobil 1 with FM cocktail. It was a noticeable difference.
I also don't see why it would be a significantly worse cold shifting fluid. It has the same viscosity as ATF when it's cold.
I have been very happy with the results to date and there is no arguing that is protects much better.
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I feel the Redline MTL shifts much better then the Mobil 1 with FM cocktail. It was a noticeable difference.
thats what i used with half bottle FM from ford, shifts very smooth
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