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I picked up a 01 3L from an Escape for my car and I'm planning on a using SVT cams and manifolds. Anyone acutally tried just using the timing covers that it comes with, or will I have alternator fitmemt issues, etc... 
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Never thought I'd be giving David advice.  You'll be the first to try this swap so my ears are perked! I'm guessing you'll have to swap the timing cover due to the change in the cam sensors. Look at a 2.5 to see the difference. The 2.5 oil pan/pick up tube will need to be swapped in as well. I'm guessing it will be about the same as a Taurus swap. I'm doing a full 2001 swap right now including the Taurus IM. Need to mod the fuel rail (braze 2.5 and 3L together), EGR tube (braze together as well), IAC might tough the hood a little as well), notch off two ears to get the alt. on. Holes should be there though. Not as easy as a hybrid.
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The '01 block was my donor for my hybrid- You'll need to grind off the mounting boss on the left side (looking as you're looking in the picture) of the block to have the alternator bracket bolt on. Your oil pan and draw tube should be identical to your SVT- My '01 didn't need the oil pan or the draw tube for the pump swapped. They were identical, but it would probably be best to check it out regardless. I can post pics of mine if you'd like for comparison.
Also, you'll need to press out the crank pilot bearing. Cutting it off or grinding it down never sat too well with me...
Your cams should work, your manifolds WILL NOT. The '01 is an oval-port design. You'll need to use the included upper and lower and the injectors from this motor.
Dan G. and his Cougar
Forged internal (Diamond & Pauter) full 3L, "Monster" Kinger F/I cut & P&P, T3/4 60 trim .82A/R ADC turbo, SPEC Stage 3, Torsen, Greddy Profec-B SPEC II, Apex'i Timer, Lots of Gauges!
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Can't really tell if it has the mounting holes for the alternator bracket. It's hard to see, but it looks like the crank position sensor is in the right place. Might have clearance issues with the tensioner, if you can even thread the belt on.
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You'll have to use 2.5 valve covers also. 3L is too tall.
-'96 SE MTX 3L
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David, to answer your question, you will need to use your original Contour front cover. The front cover on that Escape has the mounting location for the belt tensioner on the opposite side. The sensor locations are not the issue. (not all 3.0Ls have the same front cover. Some people just have 3.0L Taurus on the brain around here.) I suggest you also take a look at this thread for pickup screen, baffle, & oil pan info. Just FYI, I'm surprised that more people don't use the Escape 3.0L as their donor engine. It even comes with the power steering bracket. Even better would be the 3.0L Mazda MPV which has the bracket, doesn't have the transmission bushing like the Taurus or Escape, and has a DMD installed.
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Originally posted by DanG:
Your manifolds WILL NOT. The '01 is an oval-port design. You'll need to use the included upper and lower and the injectors from this motor.
I strongly beg to differ.
I think the best setup would be the oval port heads with the dual runner manifolds. If you have some skill and ingenuity mating then the two together should produce some very nice returns. 
Also sticking with the 3L heads makes a more friendly CR. (10:1 stock, but more like 9.7-9.9 after unshrouding - Low 9's with significant chamber work) Then just kick up the timing and enjoy the torque. Then there is always adding boost too... 
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The windage tray and pickup tube did change in the 2001 model year. Both were upgraded to the YL8E version. You must run them together.
DO NOT try to bend your old pickup to work. That is just not smart! Spend the $15 and get the correct pickup.
For Ref - Actually Dan the Escape would come with the correct pickup and even oil pan either way. The Taurus DOES NOT on either account.
Folks getting a Taurus engine (any Duratec can benefit really) may want to pop for the new 3M4Z oil pan (~$70) from the 03 Escape.
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What ever happened to the turbo setup you were going to do. Also, why may I ask did you give up that one of a kind motor you had too. (I am just curious )
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Sorry to go o/t here, but whats the dif with this one Greg? Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Folks getting a Taurus engine (any Duratec can benefit really) may want to pop for the new 3M4Z oil pan (~$70) from the 03 Escape.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by DanG:
Your manifolds WILL NOT. The '01 is an oval-port design. You'll need to use the included upper and lower and the injectors from this motor.
I strongly beg to differ.
I think the best setup would be the oval port heads with the dual runner manifolds. If you have some skill and ingenuity mating then the two together should produce some very nice returns.
What are you differing about? Dan G spoke the truth. You'll need to use the included upper and lower and the injectors from this motor unless you want to fabricate something so you can mate the dual runner intake. Brad Noon said he'd never make another so I'm guessing it isn't fun.
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The windage tray and pickup tube did change in the 2001 model year. Both were upgraded to the YL8E version. You must run them together.
DO NOT try to bend your old pickup to work. That is just not smart! Spend the $15 and get the correct pickup.
Bend your oil pick up tube? All you need to do is gring the support bracket off since their is no longer a mounting point for it. The 2 bolts that hold it in seems stout enough to me. The 3L pan is a bit deeper and you might have clearance issues on a lowered car. I just swapped my 2.5 pan and pickup tube over to the 3L. Not a big deal.
-'96 SE MTX 3L
-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me
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