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#777966 10/22/03 05:32 AM
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yea two of the spark plugs came right out with the socket, but one wont buge, and the other one broke....how do i get it out, and why did will it not move ive put lots of strenght on it... and is it safe to drive 2 miles to my shop like that?

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it wont make it 2 miles, now what

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umm, get a drill no dont do that, i would have it towed. the shop will fix it. if you have afriend with a bigger car, he/she can tow it there for you

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One of my friends did the same thing in his civic a long time ago. The person who changed the plugs before didn't use any anti-sieze compound... that is what happens unfortunately when the metals bind.

You are going to have to pull that head off and have the rest of that plug removed. Hopefully you didn't try to start it because on his, a good ammount of the plug fell into the cylinder after the thread portion broke off.

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Originally posted by WA2FAST:
... didn't use any anti-sieze compound ...




Uh-oh. (runs to car to find the plug wrench & some anti sieze)


Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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I just changed the plugs in my Dodge truck. Idiot before me forgot to use anti-seize and i broke off 6 of the 8 plugs. Ohh wait that idiot was the factory... Fortunately i was able to slowly twist them and force them out.


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Originally posted by WA2FAST:
One of my friends did the same thing in his civic a long time ago. The person who changed the plugs before didn't use any anti-sieze compound... that is what happens unfortunately when the metals bind.

You are going to have to pull that head off and have the rest of that plug removed. Hopefully you didn't try to start it because on his, a good ammount of the plug fell into the cylinder after the thread portion broke off.




i only broke the white part....and yes i started the car

a friend is going to bring a piece of pipe to the college and put it at the end of the wrench to had leverage, he said that would work

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Okay, any time you need to use a cheater bar to get a spark plug out, you better cross your fingers... that is NOT good. He broke the porcelin off too (the white part) on one of them and the center metal piece fell into the cyl. On one of the other ones, the metal part actually broke off when he used a cheater bar... the hex part of the threads twisted and sheered right off of the threads in the head. That is why we needed to pull the head and have the rest of the plug extracted at a machine shop.

BE CAREFUL.

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Uh oh! This brings back a terrible, terrible, terrible memory... 6 years ago, I owned a 1990 Ford F-250 4x4 which I purchased new. The damn thing (and I say damn because this thing was troublesome) only had 43,000kms in 1997 because of the terrible gas mileage it got (351 V8 auto & 4x4 = 12MPG) Anyways, driving to work one day, (wife needed the car) the engine suddenly got extremely loud. Because of the rush I was in, I brought it to the dealer and left it there. They called me the next day and told me that a spark plug had broken and only the threaded part remained in the head. Ugh, that doesn't sound good I thought to myself... Sure enough, when they tried to replace the rest of them, they were breaking in the same way! I told them to stop after the 3rd one because my bill was already at $400. So, (this is the part you are probably interested in) I took the truck home and tackled the rest of them myself. This is what I had to do to accomplish the job: I had to heat the area around the spark plug hole with a torch. Once the head was red hot, I inserted an "easy out" tool (available at most auto parts retailers) into the hole and tried to remove the remainder of the plug that way. This often had to be repeated because it didn't want to budge. Eventually it came out though. It took me about 5 hours to do 5 plugs. The mechanic told me that it's not the mileage that matters on plugs, it's the age. In my case the plugs had rusted out and became weak. I never dreamed of replacing my plugs at 43,000kms but now I am more careful about the condition of my plugs.

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uh, probably don't want to torch-heat aluminum heads


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