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yea from what I've read here so far Eibachs seem to be a pretty soft spring so I think thats a good choice if you don't like stiff suspension.
But personally I'd rather have the stiffest & roughest suspension setup you can have rather than bounce all over the place like those damn Hondas.
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all the contour needs to really sit nice is a 3/4-1" drop in the front the back already sits nice. i dont know what is up w/ that. personally if i am going to spend money on a drop, i want some performance too. if you want to know the cheepest way out, it would be ghetto but you could always heat up the springs with a blow torch and push them down!!!
i really dont get you people who are all about looks anyway. id take a flat black beat-up crappy ass body and run 12s 0r 13s with insane handling over a polished out show car that will do 16s any day. but thats just me.
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hey bernardo, how about the svt suspension? i forget what year model u drive. i've got my svt suspension i've been looking to sell, if interested. we can do a local gettogether install in the spring. yeah stay away from the intrax for what your looking for. look for progressive type springs if your struts r still good.
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i've got the eibachs and would like to chime in, they drop a little more in the rear than in front, which bugs the hell out of me sometimes. they are comfy though. i did notice more stiffness though going from my stock svt setup to the eibach/spax.
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Directly from the Intrax website. Originally posted by Intrax:
What makes INTRAX springs better? INTRAX designs most of its lowering kits with progressive rates, to satisfy the two features you've asked for most. First, the lowered look. Most other brands' springs are linear rate, as this is cost-effective but doesn't necessarily provide the visual effect you desire. By designing a progressive spring, we achieve the lowered look while maintaining safety standards of spring preload at suspension droop. The second requirement is ride quality. Since most of you identified that you drove 90% of your mileage to and from work, you wanted to retain some ride quality enjoyed with OE springs. If you're driving to work on a racetrack, "Sport" or "Race" springs from other brands may be for you. INTRAX progressive springs provide high performance looks and comfortable ride quality.
INTRAX creates the finest springs, from start to finish.
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INTRAX springs begin the forming process with cold winding to the most exacting standards. Within two hours of forming, springs are stress relieved in an oven (not to be confused with heat treating), and then shot peened to remove surface imperfections and further relieve internal stress. This can extend service life of a spring up to 200% or more. Next, the spring is "blocked" (wound to a longer length than required, and set in a hydraulic press to obtain designed free length). This eliminates the "settling" other brands require, due to the lower cost of their production processes. Finally, springs are Phosphate coated for corrosion resistance, and electrostatically powder coated to ensure a lifetime of outstanding looks.
I have the Intrax springs myself and I LOVE them. Now, you are looking for a "soft" ride. My ride right now is pretty firm, but my struts are also almost shot, so it is hard to tell if the ride is accurate. I personally like a hard, firm ride. I wouldn't say stay away from Intrax because they are BAD, they just probably won't meet your expectations for a "soft" ride. Even though they claim to give you the OE type ride and not the "race" ride, for me, the ride is pretty damn firm. Just vouching for Intrax personally because it seems that some on here are bashing them. Also, the site states that some of the Intrax springs are Progressive and NOT ALL are Linear like someone mentioned earlier. Either way, I don't think these are what you are looking for, I just wanted to give my $.02 on the matter since I have them installed on my SVT.
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By the way, if you are looking for that "soft" ride, you are pretty much forced to get progressive springs. Linear springs have a constant rate which does not change standing still or under a load. Progressive springs tend to ride "softer" until compressed, which gives you the best of both worlds: Ride comfort &handling. There are some issues with progressive springs however, but if you aren't worried about performance, you need not worry about that.
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Originally posted by Peach:
Also, the site states that some of the Intrax springs are Progressive and NOT ALL are Linear like someone mentioned earlier.
-Bishop
Yes, but the Contour application is linear.
I believe Intrax to be a quality spring, as well, just not suited to B's stated desires.
Originally posted by ShoShop Catalog:
Eibach Progressive Lowering Springs - $299
This spring package is aimed at daily driven Contour SVT/Cougars
where comfort takes to the front seat in cornering. Springs will be at stock feel and will stiffen if road conditions are
rough. Aimed at daily-driven Contour SVT/Cougars looking for a slight drop
in ride height.
Intrax Linear Lowering Springs - $299
...this spring package is for the
extremist where performance cornering takes the front seat to comfort.
Linear design accounts for a stiffer ride over the Eibachs with less body
roll.
H&R Lowering Springs - $299
Definitely our favorite out of the three, H&R manufactures quality
performance springs for big names such as Mercedes and BMW. Now this
technology can be experienced on your Contour SVT/Cougar also. This spring package is a great compromise between the Eibach
and Intrax spring packages for ride comfort and handling characteristics.
Function before fashion.
'96 Contour SE
"Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998
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Yes but what strut type aggressively valved or not as aggressively valved should be mated to each catagory? Let me guess (please I know I am talking generalities and not rates) a stiff linear spring with a less aggressively valved strut will bounce off the ground with every bump
and a soft spring linear or progressive with an aggresively valved strut will....................besides wear out the strut
am I correct or confused?"
"Eibach Progressive Lowering Springs - $299
This spring package is aimed at daily driven Contour SVT/Cougars where comfort takes to the front seat in cornering. Springs will be at stock feel and will stiffen if road conditions are rough. Aimed at daily-driven Contour SVT/Cougars looking for a slight drop in ride height.
Intrax Linear Lowering Springs - $299
...this spring package is for the extremist where performance cornering takes the front seat to comfort.
Linear design accounts for a stiffer ride over the Eibachs with less body roll.
H&R Lowering Springs - $299
Definitely our favorite out of the three, H&R manufactures quality performance springs for big names such as Mercedes and BMW. Now this technology can be experienced on your Contour SVT/Cougar also.
This spring package is a great compromise between the Eibach and Intrax spring packages for ride comfort and handling characteristics."
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Why thanks for an answer Peach taken from the 2 guard "How Low can I go?????? " post
"I will vouche for the Intrax springs. I have a set of them on my SVT. Very very nice drop. A little more in the front than in the back, but that gives it kind of a mean look to it. I would not suggest using stock struts with Intrax. Over bumps, they ride very nicely, quick, firm response and no bouncing. However, if you go over a dip in the road that goes from low to high very quickly, the car raises up and drops quickly, then up again, causing some bounce and at some times, bottoming out. I am now looking into some very tight struts to control this bottoming out and bouncing over road surfaces. Handling is great, but could be better with strut tower, Aussie bar, and better struts. For the money it is the best drop out there. However, the large drop on stock struts will wear them out quickly as mentioned before. If you do ride on stock's for a while, try not to make it too long or you may blow the struts and possibly damage the spring or some other part of your suspension. Intrax does say on their site: "
So there must be come kind of rate over operating range matching between struts and springs you know minimum input, impact, stress, rebound to full input, impact , rebound, stress of how each component will react to and with the other component. A rally spring strut combination will survive a hop or water jump with no problems but would probably be a kidney popper and not a comfortable cruiser!!
I think most spring strut buyers do not have this thinking; to reduce the wheel well gap is the thinking I think.
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Originally posted by hmouta:
hey bernardo, how about the svt suspension? i forget what year model u drive. i've got my svt suspension i've been looking to sell, if interested. we can do a local gettogether install in the spring. yeah stay away from the intrax for what your looking for. look for progressive type springs if your struts r still good.
Hey hugo... that would be a nice deal: buy springs with FREE installation. Ooops.. not free... I guess I would have to supply the coronas... he he he.
Serious now, what kind of drop would I see on the SVT springs + BAT struts ???
I think I have to do the struts also, I mean, they are OK but I have 100K miles on them. I read somewhere they only last about 100K miles.
And I have a 96. Would the SVt springs fit it ???
Ate the eibach / BAT springs same drop as SVT springs ??
how many miles u have on them ???
Later
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