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#756103 09/26/03 08:58 AM
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Demon, have you read the thread at Modular Depot yet? A lot of your 'points' have already been answered over there. Please read that thread before you continue to bash a product you seem to know nothing of except the rumors you have heard and what I have tried to inform you of. If you want to bash, at least do it once you know for sure what it is you are bashing.

That said let me try to answer a few more of your points.

You will be able to tune from scratch if you choose, the "pre-fabbed" tunes as you call them are a jumping off point for those who don't know what they are getting into. So yes, the chip will allow 100% fully custom programs by the owner, what reason would there be to not allow this? This is not a new version of the Hypertech Power Programmer or the Superchips Micro Tuner where you tell it yes and no to more power or gas mileage.

Where have you gotten this $1000 pricetag that you keep spreading around as if it were a fact? The price I have seen from one of the superchips/fordchip crew was $600 to $900. Another poster on this board repeated a $900 pricetag that he saw over on focaljet.

The flasher is not junk, it allows you to put your tune in the EEC without having to worry about a chip comming loose or going bad, both of which have happened with everybody's hardware.

As far as how much of the EEC code for the Contour has been 'cracked', I'm not sure, but I have posed that question in the thread at Modular Depot. Again, I realize the Contour is not a Mustang, but Mustangs are not the only cars they have worked on. Jerry started inject-tech, the precursor to Fordchip, tuning Thunderbird/Cougars and MarkVIIIs, and they have worked their way up to the current PowerPC based Focus and Lincoln LS.

I am not trying to sway you from using the TwEECer, I am trying to introduce another option to this board. If you feel that the TwEECer can do all that you want it to do, by all means stay with it. Before I saw the Superchips custom, I was very interested in a TwEECer R/T for myself. Looking at some of your othere posts you seem to be a very knowledgable guy, I just want to be sure you are properly informed about another way to use that knowledge.

Also, after re-reading the other thread, I need to correct myself on something. The chip that will be offered initially will be a 2 position 4 bank chip, and later a 4 position 4 bank chip will be offered (they are aiming for the hardware to be available before the end of the year).

For those who don't know, this means 2 custom tunes can be held on the chip, and the 4 banks allow deeper access to the EEC. The EEC-V I believe has 8 banks, in some versions not all of these are used. In the earlier versions of the EEC-V almost everything that needed to be changes was located in one bank, but a few things were located in a second and third bank. With the single bank chips that were available at the time the only way to get all values changed was to re-flash the EEC which required a NextGen Star device which cost about $2000 and some homebrew software. With multi-banked chips more of these values can be changed.

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There are 4 banks to the EEC V. 0 1 8 9. 99% of all information that you will need to tune the EEC V is in bank 1. The reason the 4 bank is used is that some vehicles, like 99 Lightnings for example, have the pats in bank 8 but the important data in 1. The truck won't start unless you burn a 4 bank. The EEC IV has everything you would like to tune in bank 8.


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Straight from the horses mouth.

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Went over to Dyno Daves to have Jerry W and Pete from Fordchip do a lil fine tuning on my car after the converter install. My car wouldnt shift right or idel(previous tune) so they took care of that.

I decided to put my car on the dyno and I lost some Torque but gained some Horses.

365.9rwhp & 410.2 rwtq

My converter is locked up all the way through second and third gears. This thing feels soooo much faster now its rediculous. Like Don said "It feels like youre being shot out of a cannon." My car now pulls to 120mph as to the old converters 105.


Now for some track times.

On another note: I talked to Jerry and Pete about the new Tuning software. Its going to retail for about $600.00 to 800.00 and they will give you your program if they did your tune for the new software so you dont have to start from scratch.

-Andy






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#756106 09/26/03 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by chknhwk:
Originally posted by Russell:

ill just leave my tuning needs to professionals, streetflight




That's actually what I've been thinking...
Too bad I already bought an Emanage.




Why?

I use the chip and the emanage! They work great together.

Tom





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#756107 09/26/03 08:23 PM
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Ok, the banks are not numbered in order, I remember some data being in bank 8 so thats where I got 8 banks from. Thanks for correcting me.

As far as having info for the Contour EECs, here is the response I got from one of the superchips custom guys:
"We have done probably 2-3 dozen Contour/Cougar/Mystique during the development of this software. There will be value files available for them, probably these will be done in the next week. There will even be some info on some blown V6's as well. Although this information is no where near as mature as Mustang information, it would certainly be a good starting point."





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