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www.efi-solutions.com/latest_news.htm
www.efi-solutions.com/PCM%20recalibrator1.giff www.superchipcustom.com

Any one think this could be of any any use to us? I know the EECtuner and TwEECer setups got some talk generated over here, but I really haven't heard anyone talking about new tuning solutions recently. Just thought I'd throw this out there for discussion.
A good all-around tuning solution is really the only thing from keeping my custom FI system from getting out of the garage and on the dyno.

http://www.SuperchipsCustom.com is something new they are bring out. It is a marriage of Superchip's hardware and FordChip's software. This will be revolutionary. You will basically be given the collective of FordChip's tuning experience in a box and all you will have to do is choose what mods you have and it will generate a tune for you with all the appropriate data tables.

This will be miles ahead of TwEECer, and the EEC-Tuner, as instead of guessing about what values do what, they know exactly what value changes what.

There is a great thread about this on www.ModularDepot.com at http://forums.modulardepot.com/showthread.php?s=386735e13e51e75814cb3edbd25caf7c&threadid=311&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

The system is expected to be released in 2 to 6 weeks. All major components and software have been developed and used for a while by FordChip and others at dynotunes.

Thanks for the information.... I guess it will be interesting to see how much info is in there for the Ford Contour and how much it costs. Seeing as how I already have a TwEECer I imagine I'll just stick with that.

Also, if you have no clue what you are doing just get a cutom dyno tune done or talk to keith at Streetflight.

DemonSVT - Did you read any of the thread that I linked? This will allow you to change anything in the EEC including things you shouldn't. Yes the tune that it creates will be generic, a generic base for you to contine from. You will have the ability to fine tune it from there. Also these are not best guesses, these data values come from dyno tunes they have done in the past.

How many tries have you seen them take at tuning a Contour? Were these cars close to stock or wild? Was it definitly FordChip or maybe someone else? Was the car properly setup or was it cobbled together and expected to have problems corrected on the dyno? I don't read these threads very often so I am not picking on anyone here.

I agree that Contours are not "cookie cutter Mustangs" but as far as the computer is concerned, an engine is an engine. It's main sources of input are the MAF, O2s, TPS, and IAT. The values of the intake plenum volume, fuel injector flow rate, pulse width, and the stock spark tables are already known. The flow data of the various Ford MAF are known, and non-Ford MAFs (such as the Pro-M) can be programed in as well (except C&L and gutted MAFs those should be done only on a dyno or on a flow bench measuring output voltages).

The basics of tuning are to turn off the adaptive portion of the EEC and set a target A/F ratio with a flat curve across the RPM range, from here adaptive control can be turned back on and you could even add forced induction to the car and have it run well, as long as the EEC can accurately read how much air is comming in (properly sized MAF) and knows what type of injectors it has so it can give the engine the proper amount of fuel. As long as the computer knows how much air is comming in and how much fuel it is putting in, it will be happy. There is more that can be adjusted in addition to this but these are the most important.

Saying anyone who really wants to could figure out what everything does is not true. If it was easy why are the TwEECer and EEC tuner software programs unable to tell you what every single value in the EEC mean? Jerry (fordchip) used to be an engineer at Ford, he had first hand knowledge of the values in the EEC.

I agree someone should not just go changing values in the EEC to whatever they want with no knowledge of what they are doing. That is why the software will generate a base tune for them. From there the values can be adjusted, but there are limits in the software to keep things safe, these limits may be overridden for those that want to.

From the thread I linked pricing was said to vary from $600 to $900 and a release date is expected from between 2 to 6 weeks. they will not give specifics about everythgin yet because they don't want the competition to undercut them on price or rush a product of their own inorder to beat them. If they can get a jump on everyone else by even 2 weeks it will give them an advantage and a foothold in the market.

I don't believe it will be capable of dataloging, but could be proven wrong after the release.

You will be given the option of a handheld EEC flasher that can be programed by computer, or a 4 bank chip to piggyback on the EEC's J3 port. I believe the handheld unit will interface via the OBD-II port like current hardware does.

Do you have any other questions I can try to answer for you?

From what I read on that other site it will not have datalogging or anything at least initially.. sounded like they are planning it for the future but I don't think it will be right away.

Sounds like it might be good.. who knows.. I'd like to look at the software when it comes out.

most of what everybody in here has been talking about is the Superchip custom tuner, but has anyone looked at the efi-solutions links and data...I believe that is a completely different animal from superchips.

(chaneling Mike Myers)

Talk amongst yourselves

Thought I would pull this thread back up since pricing information has been released.

The two unit available to individuals are as follows:


SCT Racer Package - $449

Allows shifting of timing and fuel curves
Adjust Speed limiters
Adjust Rev Limiters
Adjust axle ratio to correct speedometer after gear change
Adjust for tire diameter changes
Increse increase line pressure for greatly improved shifting (autos)


SCT Pro Racer Package - $795
This is the version we have been discussing.
It allows full control over all available parameters.
This is the most powerful EEC tuning tool ever placed in the hand of an individual.


Initially the Pro Racer Package (Flash verison) will be available followed by the other versions. Expect to see the Pro Racer Package shipping in 10 days or so.

Here's a link to the Demo Software
Go to File-> New to bring up some config items.. I guess it's for a ford windstar.

and chance these things can be used on multiple vehicles....big group meet....everybody custom tune.....

prolly not but jus an idea