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ya I just got a reply from them today too....so maybe their finally realizing that everyone is against them hah

2 seconds took me to find the website and there's a pic of a y-pipe on the front page:
http://www.yodudeperformance.com/home.asp

and here are their y-pipes

http://www.yodudeperformance.com/home.asp?producttype=exhaust&productfor=cougar_ypipe&pagetype=productIndex

Thought you said those were cheaper than brullen, they most definitely aren't.

I was referring to BAT's y-pipe.

But then again you get what you pay for.

Do you want to risk buy ing a y-pipe that may need modifications to fit right (Brullen has a bad rap on fitment)? Fugg that!

I'm not too worried about that. I know a guy who does good exhaust work. If it does need any modifications, they won't be major, and won't burn a hole in my pocket.

I agree with Stazzi completely...The BAT Y-Pipe looks like the same design as the SHO-SHOP Y-Pipe. It is not switchable between Cat and Off-Road though. $255 for Aluminized and $309 for S/S seems like a good deal to me. If you plan to keep your Cat then this design looks like it would definitly flow better then the Brulen Y-Pipe with that Fcuked up bend similar to the factory y-pipe. Plus a high flow dual inlet cat is included. Buy time you buy a hi-flow cat and the Brulen y-pipe I'll bet you spend the same or more for a poor design that I'll bet flows less. Combine a set of MSDS Headers, Bat S/S Y-pipe, and the S/S Bosal catback system (which by the way fit's quite well right out of the box...no shop needed) and you have about as good of a off-the-shelf system as you can get that flows excellent for about $1,300. You want better flow then this you will need to build a custom Tru-Dual system with Headers $$$

BAT Y-Pipe

Scott

I hate to bring up this thread, but I hate to hear these things about friends. I've been in direct contact with Alessondro(owner) of Performance Fords for nearly a year now. I'll admit he's hard as hell to get ahold of if you don't know him,but he's no crook. He's the person who gave me the idea to start my business and I'll be having my website up in a couple of weeks. He was involved in a wreck late last year and has never fully recovered. He is still going to theropy more than half a week each week. I'll admit he's not being very proffesional about his website, but I know the story. But I admitt I'd be pissed about that stuff too and the above text is no excuse for a well run business. As for the Brullen exhaust, well we had problems with the cat-backs. That has since been fixed. And as for the Y-pipes, We ran into time extensions when we realized that the 01-Up cougars had the O2 sensor in a different place. But all pipes from that GB have shipped with the exception of a very few who will be shipped by the end of the week. Brullen make some of the best stuff, but they take SO LONGGGGGGGGG. I can vouch for the qualitly(I have the Brullen Cat-back and Y-pipe with Xtreme flow cat). And the parts have been dyno proven to out perform any of the other products available for our cars. But Alessondro is no crook and I'm not saying i agree with the way he's been handling things. Just wanted to write. Thanks

Originally posted by scottd60:

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If you plan to keep your Cat then this design looks like it would definitly flow better then the Brulen Y-Pipe with that Fcuked up bend similar to the factory y-pipe. Plus a high flow dual inlet cat is included. Buy time you buy a hi-flow cat and the Brulen y-pipe I'll bet you spend the same or more for a poor design that I'll bet flows less.

Scott

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and you couldn't be more wrong buddy. The Brullen "Fcuked up bend" is in no way similar to stock and that bend will out flow anything mentioned above. And for your above $1300 exhaust of all mightyness, its ok, but not good enough for my car Bosal can't compare to the other B's of the exhaust world. And Better FLOW is easily possible.

SVTCuervo,

Easy Buddy...in no way was I bashing you or Performance Ford whatsoever. I have no dealings with them and have not seen their product other than a few pic's...by the way,why don't they have a pic of the so called superior Y-PIPE on their web page?. I have watched this board for about a year now and have heard nothing but complaints about the Brullen catback system. Yes, guys say it sounds good but so do quite a bit of the other systems. But Brullen should never have sent out the system until they had it 100% correct. I have been working on cars for a good 25+ years and have had and built several real muscle cars in the past (not a crack on the tours...I love my CSVT) and I for one get thoroughly pissed off when I buy a product through mailorder and it is wrong or does not fit. There is no excuse for this to happen, now once and while sh!t happens but when practically every system that has gone out in the past six months needed an exhaust shop to make it fit now that is unacceptable in my opinion and makes you wonder a bit. Now I expect you to back your product's or your buddy's products since you probably have a vested interest in the outcome and I don't blame you for that. But don't try and butter everyone up on how great it is and how much better it is then everyone else's when it is not...why do you have Bassani on your car? Borla is probably one of the best but the price keeps some away but anyone can bolt it up in their driveway and you won't need a shop to make it fit. Brullen, Bosal, Bassani, are all basically just cheaper versions for us guys that don't have money tree's in our back yards. All I can say is I put the Bosal system on my car in less time then it took me to get the 2 bolts after the cat off...about 45 minutes for the entire job and that includes removing the stock SVT exhaust. I DID NOT need a shop to do a thing...that is quality manufacturing to say the least. I'll bet it will flow just as good as the Brullen cat back...probably about the same. What is the difference...2.5" mandrel bent S/S, flange mounts, straight through resonator and performance mufflers with 3" tips? It come to a matter of taste on the sound and appearance. I personally like the very nicely polished S/S on the Bosal and to me it looks and sounds great. For a complete system that looks like this, sounds and performs the way the Bosal does the cost is hard to beat. My neighbor is a producer, writer and test driver for "Motor Week" and has driven every thing under the sun from domestic to foreign exotics and he compliments me every time he here's my car go up the road...he says it sounds AWESOME! As for the Brullen Y-Pipe it seems to me somebody back a few weeks ago compared it to the MSDS y-pipe where they both had the funky sharp bend in the one pipe. I recall the guy modifying the bend with some pipes from an auto parts store and greatly improving the flow. It is common sense, the less bends you have the better something will flow hence the Sho-Shop, BAT and Yo-Dude Y-pipe's clearly understood this in their designs. Now if you can get rid of most of the bends and if you must feed 2-into-1 (not true duals) then make this transition as open and smooth as possible like the SHO-Shop and BAT Y-pipe's dual inlet hi-flow cat. Now if you choose to do away with the cat then maybe the Sho-Shop off road pipe will flow the best? I'd like to see an unbiased shop to do a test on two identically moded SVT's one with a Brullen Y-pipe and cat and one with a Sho-Shop or BAT Y-pipe with 2-into-1 cat. Or even just put both setups on a flow bench...I wonder which would flow the best...maybe I'm wrong but I would put my money on the Sho-Shop or the BAT setup based simply on what I see...less bends and less restrictions! I am by no means any kind of expert but I do have quite a bit of experience with cars and more than anything common sense.

Don't take it personally...it's all good This is what boards are for, where else can you get all this free info...be it write or wrong. Some will figure it out and some will blow endless amounts of money searching for something better. That also helps the classified adds as well

Scott

Ok well you need to get the facts straight first man. No offence is entended for this by the way. NO ONE on this site has ever tested the Brullen Y. That thread you where talkin about was not about the Brullen Y. I read it and I was the one who mentioned that particular pipe during the thread. Also there is NO "Kink or Bend" that hindders air flow. This pipe is equal lengthed which allows the exhaust gasses to scavenge and mix together MUCH and I say MUCH better than the SHO or BAT (they are nearly the same pipes (Bat and SHO)). Anyone on the boards notice the DRONE and RASP in their SHO and BAT pipes. UMMMMMMMMMm YEAH. Thats becuase the gasses are being forced head on and THATS not good for FLOW.

PLEASE SHOW ME THIS HORRIBLE BEND:



AND.............the Brullen CAT BACK DOES out FLOW and OUT PERFORME BASSANI, Borla, and easily BOSAL. DYNO PROVEN. And not to offend you, but every exhaust guy, shop, manufactor,ect.... has told me that Bosal just cant hang with the others, ON any car. AS I said before, Brullens cat-back had a problem. This was due to the fact that the majority of Canadian SVT's had a different gas tank that the rest of the world(not all but most). WE latter found out that Ford used 4 different gas tanks in the Contour. And since this Cat-back was design on Alessondro's CANADIAn SVT it was uniquely fit to that gas tank. Brullen sold nearly 15 of those catbacks without a single fitment problem before the Group Buy. But i Digresss.......

I Agree 4000000% about the Cat-Backs that didn't fit. I WOULD HAVE BEEN ROYALLY PISSED OFF. But mine just so happend to fit like a glove as well as my Y-pipe(oh and together they make such great music ).

But back to the Y-pipe. IT WILL OUT FLOW your BAT, SHO, whateva.PERIOD. I just wish I had the flow charts to flant it in your face . But its ok man. I just hate to see horrible wrong info out for the public to read. Thanks

Oh and buy the way. I would never conduct business the way any of these above listed shops do. Ask any of MY(Me, my business) customers and they will tell you the process is simple hassle free and FAST. Thanks man i had so much fun writing this