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#660441 06/11/03 04:39 PM
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I ran into this very nice overview on SS brake lines, Earls adapters and how it effects DOT certs. Enjoy.. clicky


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I'll take a look at this later. Seems the link is down, as are others.

I've made 'in house' hoses for the SHO for nearly ten years and while they are not DOT approved have had maybe three problems with about 250 sets I made. DOT approved hoses are not (to my knowlege) required on cars and certainly not on racing brake systems. They do make a case for brainless installations and such with the rules they apply to them, but we in the biz certainly would hope that those doing the installs would have a few more cells than the average bloke. Then again...I've had my share of questions like "which end of the caliper goes up" so....


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Originally posted by Todd TCE:
They do make a case for brainless installations and such with the rules they apply to them, but we in the biz certainly would hope that those doing the installs would have a few more cells than the average bloke. Then again...I've had my share of questions like "which end of the caliper goes up" so....




After seeing some um.. a.. work? done my the local chop shop (oops.. ford dealer). I can see why the DOT specs are what they are.


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My feelings are, if you don't KNOW for sure you know how to identify a good non-DOT line from a bad non-DOT line, then get the DOT approved part for sure.


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A fair statement but not as clear as you'd like. There is no way to know of a 'good or bad' non DOT line nor is there a way to know of a good or bad DOT approved line. The testing done on such lines to pass the tests are of coure not done to every line made but to the 'spec' the manufacture built the test part to and it passed. That's no gaurantee of every hose made will be completely trouble free. Thus the problems with both DOT and NON DOT hoses in many cases.

In many many cases the non DOT line will be of at or better quality than the factory hoses supplied, but it may not carry the proper certs for reasons that have zero impact on real world issues or proper fitting even with adapter fittings.

I wouldn't make it a very big issue on any hose kit or brake kit considered. Any reputable manufacture can and does produce hoses that are up to the task. This includes; Earl's, Goodridge, and Aeroquip. In fact a local race supply shop couuld likely make in house hoses for you to your needs and they'd be just fine. I personally trust my own hoses on my car entering a switch-back turn on Pikes Peak and have no reservations about it.....


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Originally posted by Todd TCE:
I personally trust my own hoses on my car entering a switch-back turn on Pikes Peak and have no reservations about it.....




Todd: The chunk of metal that cut into my SS line never even started to pull the ends off. When I replaced the cut line I noticed that the mount where the SS attaches to was slightly bent! and it took some effort to bend it back.

Gooo Todds SS lines!

I don't think any Ford OEM line would ever be able to hold up to that!


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