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Iv heard horrior stoies fo the KKM filter Imploding and being sucked into the path of the throttle body.
Personaly i would go with the K&N.
And if you think about it,
the K&N has been proven by many on here that it gets better air flow and more HP than the KKM.
If you were to figure out a way to route the air like your doing now, but use the K&N filter, don't you think it would work better....just some food for thought.
But over all, good job.
Roz
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Originally posted by Marky: You are wrong! There is a much better way and you could have run a hose twice the diameter of the one you installed. WAIT, I'm one of those full of sh!t guys you referred to in your recent general mods post that uses and believes the K&N is better than the inverse cone KKM ... nevermind. I look foward to your next post. Please make it as cool and dramatic as you can. I really enjoyed the part about the "KKM ripping through the band" and "gunning it" please post ASAP.
Well Marky Mark, I can see you've been doing your homework and reading all my posts. Theres some other recent ones in Transimission and Aesthetics you should probably take a look at. Ok smart guy, so you ran a 3" hose down to the groud without any major renovations? Howd you do that? The way I pulled it down under the car there is no way it could fit. The only thing I can thing of is maybe you could get into that svt air intake portal and open it up on the bottom and pull a hose through there. Otherwise, I don't really believe you. Enlighten me. The K&N can very well be a better designed filter than the inverse KKM, I never disagreed with that. My point was to that people who stress about which one to get because the difference between the two is negilgable. Sorry if using the phrases "KKM ripping through the band" and "gunning it" was too much for you. Im sorry if i show a little personality in some of my posts. My car sounds like a beast coming down the road and believe it or not I do race sometimes. Don't bother responding with more smart, useless remarks. If you have something worthwhile to say I'd like to hear it.
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So if I read correctly, you sent the tube through the engine bay and it goes down to the front right wheel near the front bumber?
Well If I read way wrong than just ingnore this but, I would first remove the black fender well snorkal. Run the tube down the well and end it somewhere around the front lower grille area.
Of course I Really couldn't understand exactly where you ran it, but that may be a better way. Thanks
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I ran a 3" tube from my filter to the lower air damn on my car and I didnt notice any difference at all... I personaly think it was a waste of time and money... I get better results with the KKM I have
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Originally posted by Static: I ran a 3" tube from my filter to the lower air damn on my car and I didnt notice any difference at all... I personaly think it was a waste of time and money... I get better results with the KKM I have
That's odd. I noticed my IAT temps run remarkably cooler with a cold air draw from the front air damn. The IAT gets to ambient temp in a matter of seconds when the car is moving! In cooler weather it is even possibly below ambient on the highway.
I even have plenty of data logs to prove this as well.
What data do you have to back up your claims???
Any time you have cooler air entering the engine you will make more power. The filter type DOES NOT matter!
Folks alls these facts about the KKM are well documented. A little research before you bought it would have saved you some money, netted you more power, and not garnered you any of the bad side effects of an inverse cone filter.
The information is all there for those that search. By not searching you hurt yourself. Whining about it afterwards is very lame when you could have saved yourself the aggravation by not being so damn lazy in the first place.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT: Originally posted by Static: I ran a 3" tube from my filter to the lower air damn on my car and I didnt notice any difference at all... I personaly think it was a waste of time and money... I get better results with the KKM I have
That's odd. I noticed my IAT temps run remarkably cooler with a cold air draw from the front air damn. The IAT gets to ambient temp in a matter of seconds when the car is moving! In cooler weather it is even possibly below ambient on the highway. I even have plenty of data logs to prove this as well. What data do you have to back up your claims???
Any time you have cooler air entering the engine you will make more power. The filter type DOES NOT matter!
Folks alls these facts about the KKM are well documented. A little research before you bought it would have saved you some money, netted you more power, and not garnered you any of the bad side effects of an inverse cone filter.
The information is all there for those that search. By not searching you hurt yourself. Whining about it afterwards is very lame when you could have saved yourself the aggravation by not being so damn lazy in the first place.
No matter what post, No matter what subject... We can always count on DemonSVT to put people in their places. Ahhh... when it's my turn I hope he has mercy on me, because I think he's funny and smart and right all of the time and I hope that he's rich some day . Please don't hurt me.
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Demons a great guy, very honest and stright forward....which is respectable.
But i think you have taken the butt kissing too far...lol...im just kidding bro, but i must agree with you he knows his stuff, and i ahve come to find out that the sugestions he has given me have all worked with little or no problems.
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 Looks like you figured it out. Do yourself a favor and take advantage of 'SEARCH' function.
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Marky, hope your not refering to me regarding using the search function. First of all, I've searched the archives for hours and hours over the past year. Second and more importantly, I don't have a problem. I choose the KKM and am happy with it. Regardless of KKM or K&N, I wanted to run some cool air up into the filter region and I accomplished that. I respect what demon has to say as other people speak highly of his input. However your one-liners are unnecessary and immature. And if you most know, using the search function brings up countless debates and comparisons about the two filters, which people swear their car away that their filter is better. Now go away.
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Originally posted by CSVTeeznuts: Marky, hope your not refering to me regarding using the search function. First of all, I've searched the archives for hours and hours over the past year. Second and more importantly, I don't have a problem. I choose the KKM and am happy with it. Regardless of KKM or K&N, I wanted to run some cool air up into the filter region and I accomplished that. I respect what demon has to say as other people speak highly of his input. However your one-liners are unnecessary and immature. And if you most know, using the search function brings up countless debates and comparisons about the two filters, which people swear their car away that their filter is better. Now go away.
Johnny SVT
Yes, you.
I never said you had a problem.
After searcing the archives for over a year you chose KKM.
You ran a small plastic tube under a car with low gruond clearance into the engine bay because there were no other possibilities.
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