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If you can get it for that price I would jump on it. It really depends on what kind of riding you're intending on doing, but for a beginner riding moderate cross-country trails it would be a good choice. URT bikes are good to start out on if you've never rode dual-suspension before.
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Well if he ends up popping for a new bike I think I will make an offer on this one. I probably sound stupid asking this but what does URT stand for?
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If you want my honset opinion, as the manager of a bike shop. Steer clear of that rickity thing. Those where the worst designed bikes. From the look of the picture, it looks as if there is a crack in the carbon. I sold a nicer Cannondale to a CEG'r for $350 with nicer parts and an extra set of wheels. Just my thoughts, but then again, this is what I do for a living.
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What type of design problems to they have? I am pretty sure the mark you see that looks like a crack is just a reflection from the flash.
Could you maybe give me a little advise as to where to be looking for bikes and maybe a few models you can suggest along these same lines, but mobviously better build quality.
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URT = Unified Reat Trianlge. Basically you can see from you pics that the rear triangle encompases the seat stays, chain stays and bottom bracket/crank. I believe this bike is also set up as a sweet spot bike, but don't get caught up in the terminology.
The 3 MAJOR deficincies I see in this design are
1. Whan you stand up out of the saddle you are loking out the rear travel, making it a hardtail. Ie if you are doing a steep climb and you stand up out of the seat you will now have no reat suspension travel. Its also applies if you get out of the saddle for a seep/rough descent.
2. These bikes are very prone to the suspension being compressed (bouncing) from your pedal input.
3. As the suspension compresses/extends the distance between the seat and bottom braket varies. This is not good for pedal efficiency nor for someone who has bad knees and finds if difficult to find a comfortable seat height
Again... some people love URT bikes, but I have never rode one that I liked. It is a old design that many manufactures have goen away from. You still see a couple companys making URT bike (like the Rocky Mountain pipline) but those ore sort of niche bikes
I say take it out for a spin, but don't buy it without trying some other designs
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Originally posted by timfiredog:
If you want my honset opinion, as the manager of a bike shop. Steer clear of that rickity thing. Those where the worst designed bikes. From the look of the picture, it looks as if there is a crack in the carbon. I sold a nicer Cannondale to a CEG'r for $350 with nicer parts and an extra set of wheels. Just my thoughts, but then again, this is what I do for a living.
Ha... Crack'and fails..... Thanks god for lifetime warrantys on the frames. Bud of mine had one of thier CAAD5 hard tails, and in his first race when he grabbed alot of rear brake, the rear disc mount sheared off destroying hte rear triangle the first time out.
They ride nice, but I'd only hold onto one myself four a season or 2 before selling it off.
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Originally posted by timeless420:
URT = Unified Reat Trianlge. Basically you can see from you pics that the rear triangle encompases the seat stays, chain stays and bottom bracket/crank. I believe this bike is also set up as a sweet spot bike, but don't get caught up in the terminology.
The 3 MAJOR deficincies I see in this design are
1. Whan you stand up out of the saddle you are loking out the rear travel, making it a hardtail. Ie if you are doing a steep climb and you stand up out of the seat you will now have no reat suspension travel. Its also applies if you get out of the saddle for a seep/rough descent.
2. These bikes are very prone to the suspension being compressed (bouncing) from your pedal input.
3. As the suspension compresses/extends the distance between the seat and bottom braket varies. This is not good for pedal efficiency nor for someone who has bad knees and finds if difficult to find a comfortable seat height
Again... some people love URT bikes, but I have never rode one that I liked. It is a old design that many manufactures have goen away from. You still see a couple companys making URT bike (like the Rocky Mountain pipline) but those ore sort of niche bikes
I say take it out for a spin, but don't buy it without trying some other designs
First of all, timeless420 this isn't a slam at all just IMHO...
1. True, but many people find this to be a benefit. Especially people unaccustomed to dual suspension. Often in other duals, you end up bouncing up in down while standing using a lot of wasted energy. Also, urt's make some of the best seated climbing bikes.
2. No more than most duals in my experience.
3. This can be true, make sure to test ride.
I have ridden many different types of dual suspension bikes over the years including two seasons of racing on a Klein urt bike, and I generally prefer the urt design for all riding with the exception of downhill. I would suggest trying out many different styles and find what works best from there. Finding what you like best is the hard part. You can always find used bikes. Good luck
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If I go to a bike shop around town am I going to really be able to 'test' the bike? I am guessing they dont have a problem with people testing out bikes but are you really going to be able to get a good feel for the bike?
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