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I've recently started taking it in combination with slim fast for breakfast and lunch with a regular dinner...so far it's working great...i have lots of energy and the pounds are melting off
anyone else had experience with it?
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Hows the blood pressure? 
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IMPORTANT!!! When taking any stimulant, keep close track of your pulse and blood pressure. That stuff can be dangerous if not monitored. Don't drink any caffein. If you're going to be outside in heat, keep hydrated. If you have any family history of heart problems, stop taking it now. And whatever you do, don't take more than 1 pill in a 3-4 hour period!
That being said, effedra can be a great and safe weight loss aid. The mainstream media and many politicians have been doing their best to demonize and ban thermogenic supplements following the tragic death of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler. Of course, they do not mention that he should never have taken effedra in the first place due to a history of hypertension, heat illness episodes, and liver problems. It is also believed that in the process of trying to drop weight fast, he hadn't eaten in a few days and was working out around the clock. I believe I read somewhere that last year more people died from water poisoning than effedra. Almost every case of death was a result of abuse.
I've been taking Stacker 2 for the past 2 months and it works great. But it doesn't work miracles, don't expect it to.
Also, lose the Slimfast, it's damn near all sugar! Look more into eating 5-6 small, nutrient-balanced meals. It keeps your metabolism moving...don't bother counting daily calories, your body and metabolism work on a 3-5hour basis.
Good luck!
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Yea big carbs in Slimfast! They have some stuff at GNC that comes in a 4 pack. Can't remember the name. More expensive but w/o as many carbs.
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I heard of slimfast causing problems with your kidneys or something. You should drink lots of water with it if you have to have it.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
That being said, effedra can be a great and safe weight loss aid. The mainstream media and many politicians have been doing their best to demonize and ban thermogenic supplements following the tragic death of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler. Of course, they do not mention that he should never have taken effedra in the first place due to a history of hypertension, heat illness episodes, and liver problems. It is also believed that in the process of trying to drop weight fast, he hadn't eaten in a few days and was working out around the clock. I believe I read somewhere that last year more people died from water poisoning than effedra. Almost every case of death was a result of abuse.
Safe!!! 
I agree that the media and politicians like to blow things out of proportion, but I don't think I would call ephedrine safe! Where did you get your research from saying that ephedrine was safe? Maybe EAS or the other supplement companies that produce the products.
I am a personal trainer and have witnessed 2 heart attacks that were caused by overuse of ephedrine. One guy from my Gym, who I told to lay off the ephedrine, died about a month ago from overuse of ephedrine.
Anything that messes with your nervous system and causes overstimulization of the adrenal glands doesn't sound that safe to me.
Just my .02
By the way Carbs are not a bad thing. They are one of the best sources of energy for your body. Insufficient energy from lack of carbs means that protein will not be used for muscle(the fat burning machinery of the body),it will go for energy. Just Remeber NOT ALL CARBOHYDRATES ARE CREATED EQUALLY.
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Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
Safe!!!
I agree that the media and politicians like to blow things out of proportion, but I don't think I would call ephedrine safe! Where did you get your research from saying that ephedrine was safe?
Ephedra study
And this from LinkQuote:
As for the risks, the news media keep citing an estimate of "at least 100 deaths" (or, in the case of The New York Times, "more than 100"), with no time frame specified. The RAND study looked at every report of an "adverse event" in the FDA's files and in the medical literature that was available as of September 30â??a total of about 1,600 cases. The reports included only two deaths that were documented and investigated to rule out other causes. RAND also identified "four myocardial infarctions, nine cerebrovascular accidents, one seizure, and three psychiatric cases" that fell into the same category of "sentinel events."
Even in such cases, the FDA concedes, the reports "may indicate a safety problem but do not prove that ephedra caused the adverse event....Other unmeasured factors may have contributed, and such serious adverse events are likely to happen (albeit at very low rates) among the millions of users of ephedra anyway."
Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
By the way Carbs are not a bad thing. They are one of the best sources of energy for your body. Insufficient energy from lack of carbs means that protein will not be used for muscle(the fat burning machinery of the body),it will go for energy. Just Remeber NOT ALL CARBOHYDRATES ARE CREATED EQUALLY.
Yeah that's why I said "all sugar", not "all carbs"
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Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
That being said, effedra can be a great and safe weight loss aid. The mainstream media and many politicians have been doing their best to demonize and ban thermogenic supplements following the tragic death of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler. Of course, they do not mention that he should never have taken effedra in the first place due to a history of hypertension, heat illness episodes, and liver problems. It is also believed that in the process of trying to drop weight fast, he hadn't eaten in a few days and was working out around the clock. I believe I read somewhere that last year more people died from water poisoning than effedra. Almost every case of death was a result of abuse.
Safe!!!
I agree that the media and politicians like to blow things out of proportion, but I don't think I would call ephedrine safe! Where did you get your research from saying that ephedrine was safe? Maybe EAS or the other supplement companies that produce the products.
I am a personal trainer and have witnessed 2 heart attacks that were caused by overuse of ephedrine. One guy from my Gym, who I told to lay off the ephedrine, died about a month ago from overuse of ephedrine.
Anything that messes with your nervous system and causes overstimulization of the adrenal glands doesn't sound that safe to me.
Just my .02
By the way Carbs are not a bad thing. They are one of the best sources of energy for your body. Insufficient energy from lack of carbs means that protein will not be used for muscle(the fat burning machinery of the body),it will go for energy. Just Remeber NOT ALL CARBOHYDRATES ARE CREATED EQUALLY.
People, the risk of getting killed DRIVING to the store to buy this stuff is dangerous. About 800 people a week are killed in car accidents.
Used improperly, everything is dangerous. How many die in bathtub falls a year. Did you know more children are killed by AirBags then handguns in a given year?
Dangerous and safe are used without regard for meaning on all these things. Are airbags "Safe" ? are Bathtubs "Safe", are they "Dangerous"?
Ephedra is "safe" or "Dangerous" depending on how you use it. Safe and Dangerous are not absolutes! IMHO
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Instead of Slim Fast, try a good multivitamin and eat a protein bar. The protein bars have WAY more protein and less sugar carbs than the what is in the Slim Fast. Congrats on your weight loss!:D
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Even in such cases, the FDA concedes, the reports "may indicate a safety problem but do not prove that ephedra caused the adverse event....Other unmeasured factors may have contributed, and such serious adverse events are likely to happen (albeit at very low rates) among the millions of users of ephedra anyway."
There hasn't been a long term study(longer than 5 years) on the continued use of ephedrine. Take it at your own risk. The study you read did say elevated blood pressure levels.By-the-way, nobody can prove that smoking causes lung cancer, there is only a correlation to it. Obviously they wouldn't be able to prove that ephedrine would cause the adverse event! There are only correlations.
Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
By the way Carbs are not a bad thing. They are one of the best sources of energy for your body. Insufficient energy from lack of carbs means that protein will not be used for muscle(the fat burning machinery of the body),it will go for energy. Just Remeber NOT ALL CARBOHYDRATES ARE CREATED EQUALLY.  Yeah that's why I said "all sugar", not "all carbs"
CARBOHYDRATES ARE SUGAR!!!!!!
Something to think about. One of the key ingredients used in the manufacturing of Meth. is ....EPHEDRINE!!!!
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