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Hey guys,
I've recently started overfilling at oil changes because of whats been going on with the Duratecs. After the first time I overfilled, the engine runs noticably cooler all the time.
Before it would run smack in the middle of "NORMAL". Now it rarely gets past the "N" only if i've got it at 3000k for a while. It's never been past "O".
I was thinking maybe it's a bad thermostat but was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this.
1996 Midnight Red SE 5 spd. 261,000k and still going strong!
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I've been overfilling for a while now. I've nevr had any problems and even on long trips, 300mi straight(I hat pitstops  ) it always runs cool.
'98 E0 T-RED CONTOUR SVT #558/6535 Got Tunes: Sony CDXC-90, CDXT-65, XDP210EQ MCINTOSH MC4000M BOSTON PRO 6.5 COMPONENTS BOSTON PRO 12.5 LF POLK DB4500 STINGER 1FARAD CAP RED NEON INSIDE AND UNDER THROTLE HANG FIX RESONATOR REMOVED
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I suspect that it is something other than the higher oil fill. Oil plays a very important part in engine cooling, especially on parts that the water jacket is too far away from. Oil does more than just lubricate.
However, the cooling system does more than just cool. It moderates the temperature. It keeps the engine running at the correct temp range. There is enough of a buffer designed in to more than compenste for the added cooling that the additional oil does.
Look somewhere else.
Jim Johnson 98 SVT
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How much is it safe to overfill an engine by in general?
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Different engine designs have differnet tollerances. It was not uncommon in the 60's and 70's for the factory to decide they wanted an extra quart of oil so they recalibrated the dipstick. Anything over 1/2 quart could be risky if you don't know for sure.
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Thanks, big jim...1/2 qt would have been my uneducated guess...
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So - are you saying is OK to put a 1/2 quart more then what is required at each oil change? This will not cause harm to anything? If so, what do you base your facts on? Just wondering... I want to know for sure that this is a good idea. Your opinions please... Eurythmian 
'96 Oxford White Mercury Mystique "Spree" Equipped with a stock 170hp Duratec 2.5L - V-6, 4 speed ATX It's a Tubeless Tique!!! ( DFW will understand... )
Purchased NEW @ $18,756.00 on 1/11/97 with 25 miles on the Odometer for the wife. Now has a little over 57,000 miles on it and it's my ride after getting the wife a 2000 Windstar SEL. High Beam - Cool Blues in all four Head Lights. 885s in Fogs. Head Light Switch Wiring Mod ? Can now run with Parks and Fogs together. Updated the sound system and did sound proofing (What a difference!).
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Originally posted by Eurythmian: So - are you saying is OK to put a 1/2 quart more then what is required at each oil change?
This will not cause harm to anything?
If so, what do you base your facts on? Just wondering... I want to know for sure that this is a good idea.
Your opinions please... Eurythmian I assume you were not asking me...but my guess was just based on assuming that they would allow at least that much of a fudge factor in the design.
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I noticed someone in one of the other forums said rouche did a test latley and found that factory specs are way under. Something like a half a quart left in the oil pan while running.  I'll see if I can find it.
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Yea Rouch did the test at like 5000 rpm. Check out oil change under general topics. 
'98 E0 T-RED CONTOUR SVT #558/6535 Got Tunes: Sony CDXC-90, CDXT-65, XDP210EQ MCINTOSH MC4000M BOSTON PRO 6.5 COMPONENTS BOSTON PRO 12.5 LF POLK DB4500 STINGER 1FARAD CAP RED NEON INSIDE AND UNDER THROTLE HANG FIX RESONATOR REMOVED
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