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#577027 03/19/03 04:46 PM
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So just what oil exploration firm do you work for? I'm feeling more than a shadow of doubt about your ability to provide a truly informed perspective on oil prospecting.


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Originally posted by JaTo:
you in turn threw up a series of numbers that had NO explaination behind them. Did you or did you not do this? Just answer the simple question I've just posed.





No explanation behind them ??? Let's see:

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CRUDE OIL - BILLIONS BARRES

North America - 54.6
Cent South Am - 67.5
Western Europe- 17.6
Eastern Europe- 66.1
Middle East - 654.6
Africa - 86.4
Asia Oceania - 57.2





There is a title right there, where it should. What explanation u need to understand numbers ? If you have no arguments (or maybe you have no clue about what the issue is, STF UP !)



Originally posted by JaTo:
now in this latest barrage of trash from you, you state that the initial numbers you presented come from the DOE, then not a half-page down in the SAME thread you state that you don't TRUST or BELIEVE the DOE numbers. Which is it?




why i waste time with you ?? did I say the DOE numbers are not valid ? I sid they were biased, because they try to avoid other issues like mentioning studies on OPEC monopoly in 30-40 years, when they are gonna be the only ones with reserves left. But they cannot say that, it would be too easy to figure out how important the middle east oil is.



Originally posted by JaTo:
Canada does do a large amount of refining, but they ALSO do a tremendous amount of crude oil production, which you've totally tried to glass over.




I so did not !! I showed you that we import GREAT part of processed from them. But part of those processed do not come from their own oil fields. There is no way to hide that !! Quit !!

Whats ur problem man. Its not about opinions anymore. It s about facts. I didn't try to deceive nobody with one single bar-type chart showing how much processed we import from Canada. I furnished you with much more than that. I even mentioned that, IMO they are biased info, but they do serve as a comparison for our discussions.






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Originally posted by BBorges:
Originally posted by JaTo:
you in turn threw up a series of numbers that had NO explaination behind them. Did you or did you not do this? Just answer the simple question I've just posed.





No explanation behind them ??? Let's see:

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CRUDE OIL - BILLIONS BARRES

North America - 54.6
Cent South Am - 67.5
Western Europe- 17.6
Eastern Europe- 66.1
Middle East - 654.6
Africa - 86.4
Asia Oceania - 57.2









Actually, I think I did ask if these were production, consumption, or US import volume numbers.

How's that for one important missing piece of qualification information?

I'm with Jato, it's vague as you wrote it.


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Originally posted by BOFH:
Originally posted by BBorges:
Originally posted by JaTo:
you in turn threw up a series of numbers that had NO explaination behind them. Did you or did you not do this? Just answer the simple question I've just posed.





No explanation behind them ??? Let's see:

Quote:

CRUDE OIL - BILLIONS BARRES

North America - 54.6
Cent South Am - 67.5
Western Europe- 17.6
Eastern Europe- 66.1
Middle East - 654.6
Africa - 86.4
Asia Oceania - 57.2









Actually, I think I did ask if these were production, consumption, or US import volume numbers.

How's that for one important missing piece of qualification information?

I'm with Jato, it's vague as you wrote it.





If the first data was confusing, he should've asked. I did see you really asked. That was my fault. I didn't even realize it could cause confusion.

Table 8.1 World Crude Oil and Natural Gas Reserves, January 1, 2001

I have that in a spreadsheet. I can email that to whoever wants it. You should be able to find it online, but I don't remember the agency that gathered the table. I mentioned that also, I tried to post a link to it but could not find it online.


BOFH, I see you have doubts about the first data, I shouldve answered you but I missed your post. I was too pissed with some other posts.

It is just funny how you just asked it again instead of attacking me (like some have done). This thing is pissing me off. Few people here should be living in china or somewhere else, since they simply cannot accept that sometimes they are wrong.



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Originally posted by BBorges:
...I was too pissed with some other posts.




Convienent and typical. It's someone or something elses fault for your mistake or misrepresenation. You're true stripes are really showing here...

Originally posted by BBorges:

It is just funny how you just asked it again instead of attacking me (like some have done). This thing is pissing me off. Few people here should be living in china or somewhere else, since they simply cannot accept that sometimes they are wrong.




Do it right the first time around. That way you don't run as high a risk of misunderstandings, misperceptions, etc.

Again, I'll ask it for the nth time. What does oil reserves and natural gas reserves, or a chart/spreadsheet, etc. opaquely reffering to this, have anything to do about the initial remark that was made about the AMOUNT of oil imported by the US? How does your data that you put up refute that remark or reinforce it?

Importation of oil, be it REFINED or CRUDE, it a totally different SUBJECT than RESERVES!!!

I'd be p!ssed off to if I created such a rabbit trail that leads to nowhere...


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Originally posted by JaTo:
Again, I'll ask it for the nth time. What does oil reserves and natural gas reserves, or a chart/spreadsheet, etc. opaquely reffering to this, have anything to do about the initial remark that was made about the AMOUNT of oil imported by the US? How does your data that you put up refute that remark or reinforce it?

Importation of oil, be it REFINED or CRUDE, it a totally different SUBJECT than RESERVES!!!





I should expect that from you. You talk about strategies and long term policies when it is convinient and goes along with your deceiving arguments.


I won't take the time to explain the relation between reservers, monopoly and current market. If you want you read about it. but believe, evrything is related.

Actually, if you don't see the relation you should just stop wasting my time. don't even try to figure it out.


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Funny thing is you never came back from the second round of data I gave to you. Not that you could anyways, but you keep on focusing on the incomplete data I first gave. Interesting, you are always talking about being productive and things. Stop going on circles then, or if you cannot, SHUT THE F UP.


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True or false, the US has one of the largest (if not largest) untapped oil reserves in the world?


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Originally posted by kustom kontour:
you cant get the oil from us canadiens......

we only have 8 miles of paved road up here and it snows year round....not to mention the killer beavers that roam our streets at night .....






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Originally posted by SVTNupe:
True or false, the US has one of the largest (if not largest) untapped oil reserves in the world?





i am not sure if that is a question or what.

If it is a question the answer is FALSE.


Quote:

Global Oil Supply by Region

The Mideast remains the largest oil-producing region, as shown in the accompanying graphs. Mideast dominance in oil reserves -- the estimated amount of oil that can be produced from known reservoirs -- is even more pronounced: the region holds about two-thirds of the one trillion barrels of global proved oil reserves (graph), so the region's critical role in world oil supply will continue and will grow. (The United States, by contrast, holds only 4 percent of global proved reserves.)





The United States, by contrast, holds only 4 percent of global proved reserves



(coming back to the reserve-market-monoploy, that's one reaons why middle east oil is so important)


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Originally posted by SVTNupe:
True or false, the US has one of the largest (if not largest) untapped oil reserves in the world?




I think you're referring to estimations on stratigraphic traps that certain US oil companies feel haven't been found/explored in Alaska or off of the US coast...

As far as known reserves go, no, we don't.


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