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How could headers be choking your engine?
Worked 3.0+ w/cams pushing 255+ whp that's how.
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So these choke a 3.0L? Must have alot of mods on it...
(edit : 255fwhp!!!I guess I should be OK with my 160 then  )
This is a no brainer, providing the 304SS is thick enough and the welds are well done (not pretty, well done...)
I'd give up some heat shielding for the peace of mind of not having a coating to flake off...Plus you could get some thermal wrap and make it better than MSDS coating (I'd be weary in the snow belt though, salt would collect ijn the cloth)At this price, its a MUCH better deal than the MSDS...Even if 304SS is not ideal for headers, it will last a while...probably longer than mild steel.
Demon, that Y looks OK to me...although we do not see the inside very well.
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Just putting my $.02 in, but how much would it cost to have to dyno runs done. Seems to me like the cost is going to cut into this $200 savings quite a bit. I'm not trying to be negative, but this is like adverising for you. Maybe you should offer a bigger price break. I bet you will get more of these guys to take you up on the offer, and if you are so confident the results will be good, this will only help you more.
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but these r people who likely would've dynoed anyways, who do it fairly often after major mods and tuning
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Read the offer again Woogieman. They are only asking for "seat dyno." They are asking you to report subjectively "How does your car feel with these headers?" The only real conditions are time, talk and pictures. This is a terrific offer and I hope it sees some takers soon. This vendor deserves some success with us.
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Originally posted by mangler:
1. I'd give up some heat shielding for the peace of mind of not having a coating to flake off...
2. Plus you could get some thermal wrap and make it better than MSDS coating (I'd be weary in the snow belt though, salt would collect ijn the cloth)
3. Demon, that Y looks OK to me...although we do not see the inside very well.
1. 1 year and my headers look the same as the day I installed them. Average snow around here but all they do is throw down salt. Above average rain and high humidity year round.
2. NO! 304 SS should never be wrapped. It will crack!
Also there is a coating you can put on the wrap so it does not absorb moisture & makes it more durable. Also good wrap is not cloth based anymore (more of a metal/polyglass hybrid - technology and products have come a long way since header wrap was originally made!)
3. LOOK AGAIN! The V-bend is terrible! That is even the achilles heel in the MSDS setup and this bend is even sharper. If you are going to have the tuned U-bend then make sure it is a U not a sharp V.
Also without seeing all the inner welds and pipe fitment who knows the build quality.
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Well despite a one man quest to dog these headers, several sets have been shipped out to Cougar Owners. These sets are being installed this week and hopefully should have dynos within 7 days of the install. (Giving the Computer time to adjust).
The first test car is making a baseline pull on a dyno Friday. He will then have the headers installed. 1 week later he will return to the same dyno and pull again. This comparison will be posted on CustomCougars.Com
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Hey Autumn please post your findings when you get them, I'm interested.
Will anyone of the cougar owners be using the sho-y instead of the one that comes with the headers for any dyno pulls? Just curious.
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You must be very lucky with your coating because the replacement y-pipe I received from MSDS that had the new coating started to show signs of rust 4 months after installing it and without having ever seen a single flake of snow or grain of salt. I emailed him abou thies 2 or 3 times but they decided to ignore me. Ask me my opinion about the MSDS coatings both new and old and I'll tell you they suck. I'll make sure to snap some pics of the new coating in a few weeks after teh snow starts to dissapear and I'l show you what it looks like after about 10 months use
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I have two wrds JET HOT! I too have heard bad stories about the coatings MSDS apply to their headers.
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