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Re: DMD observations #564505 03/06/03 10:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,632 USA M MotorCity Hard-core CEG'er
MotorCity Hard-core CEG'er M Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,632 USA	You want something that looks like this: http://www.pbase.com/image/12741466 "Cobb - It's not just for corn anymore!"

Re: DMD observations #564506 03/07/03 05:14 AM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,359 Mill Creek, WA L Lance Kinley_dup1 Webmaster
Lance Kinley_dup1 Webmaster L Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,359 Mill Creek, WA	Here's a pic showing the difference: Stock pulley on left, DMD on right. -Lance Lance Kinley CEG Webmaster 95 SE, "Cassandra" 10 years!

Re: DMD observations #564507 03/07/03 05:39 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 99 Missouri T tgrimes CEG\'er
tgrimes CEG\'er T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 99 Missouri	Hey guys: On the DMD topic, I had the opportunity to talk with a Ford engineer not too long ago at a Ford plant in Michigan. He told me something very interesting: Ford sometimes redesigns a part they know to be faulty, produces it, but then won't tell anyone about it. The reasons he gave me were: 1. Ford can't or doesn't wan't to fix everyones car, but, 2. They don't want to upset enthusiasts hardcore enough about their car that would put in the effort to improve their car. Incidentally, while I was talking to him, he was testing two new dampers in the dyno lab (not duratec dampers). I also noticed that the damper belt alignment was a little off. I haven't noticed any problems though. What people have not been talking about is the new duratec oil pan that ford is producing. The reason everybody has been replacing these dampers is because of the potential bearing problems that the supposed "crank whip" causes. As you all know, bearing problems can be caused by oil starvation as well. Here is what I have noticed: Ford has changed the oil pan's part number three times since 2000. That means one of two things, A: the price was reduced, B: the design was changed. I can't imagine they changed the deisgn 3 times, nor do I believe they changed the price 3 times. So I bought one, and I am going to investigate what the difference is. In either case, I am taking mine off (98 SVT) soon and I am going to compare them, report my findings and post pics. Timothy Grimes 98 SVT #2132 82 320i -Now armed with a hairdryer-

Re: DMD observations #564508 03/07/03 05:56 AM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 63 Rochester Hills, MI, USA T The Red Magi_dup1 CEG\'er
The Red Magi_dup1 CEG\'er T Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 63 Rochester Hills, MI, USA	tgrimes, that would be most helpfull. Thanks! Now Did I miss something or is the new 6 that I'm thinking as my next car has the duratech in it? or a new breed. I know ours is a mazda designed engine. Curious, Ray 99 Sport SE, 2.5MTX, C. Red Mintex AF/EBC Rotors, Potenza RE950, BAT Euro Kit.

Re: DMD observations #564509 03/07/03 07:43 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	The 3L has a completely different FEAD system. Will not work. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: DMD observations #564510 03/07/03 07:50 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by The Red Magi: Now Did I miss something or is the new 6 that I'm thinking as my next car has the duratech in it? I know ours is a mazda designed engine. Most definitely! The new Mazda 6 has an over rated version of FORD's 3L Duratec (no H) engine in it. Mazda had NOTHING to do with the design or building of the Duratec line of engines. It was a Porsche designed engine using Cosworth casting technology and Ford came in only to screw it up a little at the end. (the gist of a long story) The Duratec in the new 6 is a stock FORD 3L Duratec short block with Mazda designed (or reworked) heads & VVT. Also from the looks of it's dyno numbers I'm glad they didn't have anything to do with the original Duratec design! 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: DMD observations #564511 03/08/03 04:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 344 P procyon_dup1 CEG\'er
procyon_dup1 CEG\'er P Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 344	Big Jim, I have discussed some differences in damper height before. This may be your problem. The height had to increase for the FEAD to line up because the newer pulsewheel was thinner. See my old post here: http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=3L&Number=79363&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1

Re: DMD observations #564512 03/08/03 05:19 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA B Big Jim_dup1 OP Hard-core CEG'er
OP Big Jim_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er B Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA	Originally posted by procyon: Big Jim, I have discussed some differences in damper height before. This may be your problem. The height had to increase for the FEAD to line up because the newer pulsewheel was thinner. See my old post here: http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=3L&Number=79363&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1 If I read the posts on that link correctly, the 95 would have a shorter snout than a 96 and newer. We were working on a 96. Anyway, the slight change in alignment doesn't seem to be hurting anything. No one has been posting about having belt alignment problems such as shreading belts or throwing belts after installing a DMD. Jim Johnson 98 SVT 03 Escape Limited

Re: DMD observations #564513 03/08/03 05:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 344 P procyon_dup1 CEG\'er
procyon_dup1 CEG\'er P Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 344	Give me the Ford part # off the old damper and I can tell you for sure.

Re: DMD observations #564514 03/09/03 03:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,977 The "Safest" City in the USA A AirKnight Hard-core CEG'er
AirKnight Hard-core CEG'er A Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,977 The "Safest" City in the USA	Originally posted by procyon: See my old post here: http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=3L&Number=79363&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1 That thread brings back my happy times... I GOT BOLT-ONS Project 3-Liter FAQ AirKnight's Online!

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