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I have been having very bad mileage lately about 16-max 18 mpg with mixed city/highway using 93 and 87 octanes,
I have new plugs, autolites double platinum (changed from bosh platinum +2 with 3k but the same mileage), new fuel filter, recently cleaned EGR passages and TB,
could it be then because a plugged precat?, any other ideas for bad mileage?,


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Could be a precat, a bad o2 sensor messing with your air fuel ratio....then again youd be pulling a CEL . And there was no word of a CEL in your post...make sure yous spark pulg wires are good...could also be some folwed spark pulgs....start with the simp things, like what you changed...then go from there.


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My city milage went from 18 to 21.5 after I gutted the precats.


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Originally posted by rozwell911:
Could be a precat, a bad o2 sensor messing with your air fuel ratio....then again youd be pulling a CEL . And there was no word of a CEL in your post...make sure yous spark pulg wires are good...could also be some folwed spark pulgs....start with the simp things, like what you changed...then go from there.


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Aren't there codes that get stored on occasion that do not throw a CEL ??


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Originally posted by MarkO:
Originally posted by rozwell911:
Could be a precat, a bad o2 sensor messing with your air fuel ratio....then again youd be pulling a CEL . And there was no word of a CEL in your post...make sure yous spark pulg wires are good...could also be some folwed spark pulgs....start with the simp things, like what you changed...then go from there.


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Aren't there codes that get stored on occasion that do not throw a CEL ??




Yes...but there very unlikly, but it is possible. The only one I know of is if your fuel level sensor is bad. See the way I undersatnd is that all the codes that pose a problem with the driveability of the car will throw CEl's, including some transmission problems.


But when it comes to air/fuel and gas mileage, it may not throw a CEl, like with fowled spark plugs, but i believe bad wires might throw a CEL.


BUt if it's a precat it would mostlikly throw a CEL.


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Originally posted by rozwell911:
Could be a precat, a bad o2 sensor messing with your air fuel ratio....then again youd be pulling a CEL . And there was no word of a CEL in your post...make sure yous spark pulg wires are good...could also be some folwed spark pulgs....start with the simp things, like what you changed...then go from there.


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In fact I had two consecutive CELs 6 months ago, bad o2 sensor, chagned both upstream and no CEL neither codes in the memory, I use to check it often with the ODB explorer,
When i checked the bosh after 3k miles they were like new,
I'll check the autolites in the weekend.


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Originally posted by jmatzick:
My city milage went from 18 to 21.5 after I gutted the precats.



why did you gutted them?, the cost?


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One thing that you did not mention was your air filter. Seems like one of the more obvious things, but easily over looked.

I was getting about 21-24 mpg on a good day and the same as you on a bad day before installing my BAT intake and now (as long it is cool outside and the engine temp doesn't rise too high in the city) I am getting around 26-28 mpg and I know that I have a plugged bank 1 precat. Will gut them when it stops raining long enough for the ground to dry up a little.

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Originally posted by ramon1809:

why did you gutted them?, the cost?



Originally it was the cost. But now that my Contour has been running alot better without them, ie more pep. I would opt to gut the precats even if it costs more than replacing them.


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mines getting gutted in the spring, on a day above 60 degrees


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