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Supertrapp Mufflers #532098 01/27/03 01:10 AM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98 W WickeD_CSVT OP CEG\'er
OP WickeD_CSVT CEG\'er W Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98	Are there any alternative mufflers that have the same design as supertrapps? I like the tunable option. They look really cool too. I was also wondering if these are going to give me the hp that I want. I like the straight through design, but is this really ideal for our cars? 2FAST4U 2000 Contour SVT

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532099 01/27/03 04:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,810 Ozark, AL W warmonger_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
warmonger_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,810 Ozark, AL	No muffler will give you the horsepower you want. Only real engine mods along with exhaust mods will give big horsepower. Do a full open intake with a completely custom exhaust and throw in headers while you are at it...this will give good power increases. warmonger Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760 356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas! See My Mods '05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red '06 Mazda5 Touring, 5spd,MTX, Black

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532100 01/27/03 06:28 AM
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OP WickeD_CSVT CEG\'er W Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98	Well the headers should be on their way shortly. As for custom exhaust, I asked a few questions but never got a straight answer. I still haven't decided to go 2" or 2.25" mandrel piping. I just don't want to layout a grand to find out that I could have done better. I mean for that price I should just let it ride on the ponies (greyhounds down here ) and get the turbo. It was so much easier to get hp gains from my mustang. I guess thats what I get for buying a 6 banger. On a side note: why didn't ford put the 3.0 SHO Yamaha engine in these cars? Or wasn't there a 3.4 V8. I mean they already had the technology and they knew the hp stats. Obviously, the 3.0 fits in the contour. I know that neither engine produces a whole lot of horsepower but why downgrade. Sorry, just talkin out my a$$ . 2FAST4U 2000 Contour SVT

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532101 01/27/03 07:12 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by Joker1626: 1. As for custom exhaust, I asked a few questions but never got a straight answer. I still haven't decided to go 2" or 2.25" mandrel piping. 2. I just don't want to layout a grand to find out that I could have done better. I mean for that price I should just let it ride on the ponies (greyhounds down here ) and get the turbo. {edit for content } 3a. On a side note: why didn't ford put the 3.0 SHO Yamaha engine in these cars? Or wasn't there a 3.4 V8. 3b. I mean they already had the technology and they knew the hp stats. Obviously, the 3.0 fits in the contour. I know that neither engine produces a whole lot of horsepower but why downgrade. Sorry, just talkin out my a$$ . 1. I take it you mean mandrel bent true duals. 2" is ideal 2. $1000!!! Are you having this exhaust custom built be a (RICH!) shop that HAS a mandrel bender or making it from pre-existing mandrel bends? The first I could understand the price as the mandrel bending machines cost a fortune (I.E. recouping their cash outlay) though I have yet to find a shop that actually has one. The latter is a total rip off! I bought all the parts for mine for $275 (labor by me ) Well soon to be labor by me - when it gets warmer & I can leave the garage open! 3a. For one; Why??? For two; neither of the afore mentioned engines would fit. 3b. No Yamaha did. It was many years out of production & NO it does not fit. A 3L Duratec engine fits. ...and yes... 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532102 01/27/03 05:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,100 San Antonio/Austin, TX R Ray_dup1 Addicted CEG\'er
Ray_dup1 Addicted CEG\'er R Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,100 San Antonio/Austin, TX	Originally posted by DemonSVT: A 3L Duratec engine fits. ...and yes... and yes.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Ray '99 CSVT - Silver #222/276 In a constant state of blow-off euphoria. Originally posted by Kremitthefrog: I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532103 01/27/03 05:25 PM
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OP WickeD_CSVT CEG\'er W Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98	I expected that!! I knew that I would get flamed for it but I wanted to know why ford would go to a new design rather than use a design they already had that worked. The exhaust price includes the headers and all mandrel piping as well as the supertrapps. 2FAST4U 2000 Contour SVT

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532104 01/27/03 06:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,355 Smyrna, Tn C csc99svt Hard-core CEG'er
csc99svt Hard-core CEG'er C Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,355 Smyrna, Tn	a 5.4L v8!?!?!?!?!? have you taken a look under your hood lately? where you gonna put the other two cylinders? in the trunk!? --Chris-- 1999 Silver Frost SVT #1671 of #2760

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532105 01/27/03 08:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by csc99svt: a 5.4L v8!?!?!?!?!? have you taken a look under your hood lately? where you gonna put the other two cylinders? in the trunk!? He said 3.4L V8. As in the Duratec based V8 used in the last generation SHO. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532106 01/27/03 08:38 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by Joker1626: The exhaust price includes the headers and all mandrel piping as well as the supertrapps. What about labor? Are you doing it all yourself? Because just the parts you listed alone equal easily $1200. (Headers ($600-650), Down pipes ($100 or $50+ worth of mandrels), 2x flex joints ($50), 2x resonators ($50), 2x trapps ($250+), mandrel bends ($100+), and piping ($25) Add $150 more if you want cats too. If you are having a shop do all is this expect closer to $2000 including the labor. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Supertrapp Mufflers #532107 01/27/03 11:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98 W WickeD_CSVT OP CEG\'er
OP WickeD_CSVT CEG\'er W Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 98	Let me list the prices so it doesn't look like I am lying. Mandrel bends: 100 ($88.62 from jcwhitney; no one does mandrel bends down here) Headers: SHO SHOP price $550.00 (no y pipe) Supertrapps: $100.00 each = $200.00 (thats what I paid ) NO Cats: "FREEBIE" Labor and extra piping: "FREEBIE" The man that rents me space for my business does exhaust work. We made a deal! That makes the total $850.00 and still leaves me with enough to buy cats if I really wanted them. 2FAST4U 2000 Contour SVT

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