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Chris, you might have kinger's guy deck the heads a little more than usual to bump your compression too since this will be an N/A car.
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Originally posted by Buckshot77:
Chris, you might have kinger's guy deck the heads a little more than usual to bump your compression too since this will be an N/A car.
Rick
Custom pistons are a better way of doing it though as valve to piston clearance is already a bit tight on our engines. You can always fly cut the stock pistons, but then you're getting into more custom machine work and weakening the stock pistons further by cutting them. Chris, at least finish any cam specs before building or modifying pistons as you may have to have them fly cut anyway to clear any higher lift cams or increase in duration. My vote = open up the chambers to lower compression and unshroud the larger valves, then get larger domed custom pistons to raise the cr back up to 13 or 14:1. Siamese the intake runners, from the last curve of the UIM, through the LIM, to about 50mm or so into the head ports. Ditch the secondaries and guide bars. Long tube, tuned length headers are a must. If he doesn't have any, try http://www.burnsstainless.com for help designing and building some. There's a lot more you can do, if funds allow...
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Brad, just a note on the compression, the World Challenge rules for touring cars state no higher than 12.5:1 (IIRC) or is it 12:1 compression ratio (??), stock bore and stroke. I still have to find out about the valve sizes, hopefully the sky's the limit. 
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Leo runs 12.5 Wiseco pistons... Originally posted by cawong11:
Brad, just a note on the compression, the World Challenge rules for touring cars state no higher than 12.5:1 (IIRC) or is it 12:1 compression ratio (??), stock bore and stroke. I still have to find out about the valve sizes, hopefully the sky's the limit.
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Chris, Sorry about delay ihn posting -- been away. You might want to get in touch with the Mumm brothers who are also running a 2.5l Cougar, but in GrandAm Cup -- last I heard, they had one of Chris Reinke's enginetics-built engines potentially for sale. I believe their website is www.mummbrothers.com. Good guys & always been very helpful to me with advice (they did a lot of the original development work with Leo C.)  Mike
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Originally posted by SeiCoRacing:
Chris,
Sorry about delay ihn posting -- been away. You might want to get in touch with the Mumm brothers who are also running a 2.5l Cougar, but in GrandAm Cup -- last I heard, they had one of Chris Reinke's enginetics-built engines potentially for sale. I believe their website is www.mummbrothers.com. Good guys & always been very helpful to me with advice (they did a lot of the original development work with Leo C.)
Mike
Thanks Mike. Seems that one common factor here, Kinetic engines. Now if the budget had an open limit, we would contract them to build the engine. However, there is a limited budget for this project.  I'll contact the Mumm brothers. THX.
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Can anyone recommend a brand for a stand alone engine management system? Looks like the owner of the race Contour would like to go this route too. 
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Originally posted by cawong11:
Can anyone recommend a brand for a stand alone engine management system? Looks like the owner of the race Contour would like to go this route too.
How about an Electromotive Tech III?http://www.electromotive-inc.com/
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http://www.electromotive-inc.com/ there, that works a little better
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Originally posted by Y2KBlack&BlueSVT:
http://www.electromotive-inc.com/
there, that works a little better
THX, a name was mentioned today during a conversation, electro......, and looks like the winner is electromotive.
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