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Dodge recently said that their RAM RT truck would "make Ford's F-150 Lightning no more than a gentle rain." This is John Coletti's (chief engineer of SVT) response. "While Chrysler is trying to dethrone the Lightning, the GT40 we're going to produce will reduce their Viper to a status of somewhere between a garden snake and an earthworm."
I like the sound of this competition!


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LOL!

That just means better products for the consumer!

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Whatev'ah!

I"m a car guy, not a Blue Oval nut or a Mopar freak.

What I do know is the 2nd Gen Viper is NA while the GT40 is relying on boost. Viper is 75-80K and GT40 is projected to be around 100K. The car rags will have with these two romping through many a test.

The SRT Ram will be awesome, I'm sure 5-8K more than a Lightning but performance wise, it will be well worth it.

the Z06 for 52K is still the hands down winner for HP/$ in my book.

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He also said this about the Lightning!!! smile

"The SVT F-150 Lightning is clearly the undisputed, unchallenged heavyweight champion in the sport truck segment. Oh, I hear a competitor might be coming. But, call me when one is produced. Because by then ? well let's just say we're not sleeping?"

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The Dodge Ram RT will have more power, but I think it will be pretty close 0-60. I think it will be very difficult to launch a truck with 500 lb ft and a 6-spd. Granted the Ram will likely run down the lightning in the 1/4.

Glad to see some competition for SVT, now GM just needs to bring out the SS concept truck that they have.


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Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez:
What I do know is the 2nd Gen Viper is NA while the GT40 is relying on boost.
That was just for the show car. They haven't finalized the power plant for the production car, yet.


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[b]What I do know is the 2nd Gen Viper is NA while the GT40 is relying on boost.
That was just for the show car. They haven't finalized the power plant for the production car, yet.[/b]
I read that because SVT was given the contract to manufacture the GT40, more than likely it will have the sme setup as the car show.
Ford is planning a 2003 release on this. Not a lot of time to come up with a new engine and meet EPA and crash test worthiness if they are back at the drawing board working on a engine/trans combo.

Not sure what else Ford has in it's stable of engines that can come up with 450-500HP and stay reasonably light in weight.

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Can I use this next time my SHO gets beat at the track by a GTP? wink afterall he is relying on boost :rolleyes:


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Hah yeah, CART cars rely on boost, well for one more year anyways :rolleyes: , until it turns into a copy of the irl. 2.65 liters pushing out ~850 hp, but it's turbocharged so it doesn't matter.

You could say Viper is relying on cubic inches too :p .


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is relying on boost
Can I use this next time my SHO gets beat at the track by a GTP? afterall he is relying on boost :rolleyes:
Just implying that Dodge owners for that 20-25k they save, wait GT40's will be snatched up by collectors and sell for 125-140K with the ADM, will have a grip of cash to tune there cars.

And people feel forced induction is the cheap way to go on developing HP. Most every supercar is NA. Not always my sentiments but I'm looking at this from a business standpoint and a public reaction. No matter what you stuff in there it will sell because its a Ford GT40. It's what others think about it performance wise I was gettin at.

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No more HMS to tune Vipers but didn't TNT do a Viper with 0-60 times of 2.6 seconds.

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