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http://www.bnmotorsports.com
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Holy crap! Those guys are charging $2000 for a 3L now? That's pure highway robbery. What does a fresh block cost from Ford, $900 or so? Does anyone think the following is worth $1100? Originally posted by shoshop.com:
1. Each short block is meticulously inspected by our own experienced technicians and approved before modifications are performed, to ensure reliability and longevity. (Hah! They inspect it over and above Ford QC? What are they going to find that Ford missed?)
2. Oil drain back holes left open by 2.5L heads are filled/blocked.
3. Pilot bushing for flexplate is replaced with proper pilot bearing for MTX-75
4. Oil Pressure switch is retapped to accept the earlier design switch retained on your wiring harness.
Kit also comes with:
1. Complete Upper Gasket Set, including Head Gaskets
2. Complete Head Bolt Set
3. Rear Main Seal
That's a lot of profit margin. There are cetainly cheaper options out there, even if you buy and provide a 3rd party your very own 0 mile Ford block. And they are still missing the knock sensor retapping. 
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Originally posted by PA 3L SVT:
Does anyone think the following is worth $1100?
Originally posted by shoshop.com:
1. Each short block is meticulously inspected by our own experienced technicians and approved before modifications are performed, to ensure reliability and longevity. (Hah! They inspect it over and above Ford QC? What are they going to find that Ford missed?)
2. Oil drain back holes left open by 2.5L heads are filled/blocked.
3. Pilot bushing for flexplate is replaced with proper pilot bearing for MTX-75
4. Oil Pressure switch is retapped to accept the earlier design switch retained on your wiring harness.
Kit also comes with:
1. Complete Upper Gasket Set, including Head Gaskets
2. Complete Head Bolt Set
3. Rear Main Seal
No, I think it's worth $300.  That includes labor to put in new bearings and rings too!!! They upped their price by $500 over their previous $1499 to include the friggin $230 (list price) upper end gaskets -n- crap...
http://www.bnmotorsports.com
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Doesn't ShoShop also give a ONE YEAR WARRANTY on the engine from factory defects? Doesn't that kind of make it worth it at that price?
3.5L! aw, yeah! 
MY NEW HOBBY...RUINING CHRIS CROFTS LIFE...
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A 'Fresh' new Ford 3.0 latest level, YF1Z-6009-EA is List $1222.88 , Net $933.73....bit out of touch eh PA! 
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I called up Sho Shop. Its going to be a complete stroker kit. New crank, pistons and rods for a 3.0L. Thats all that they could tell me though.
99' Silver Frost SVT
18" Racing Hart C2's
Fidanza Flywheel
SPEC Stage III clutch
Torsen Diff.
Color matched Headlight covers
Ding guards removed
B&M Short Shifter
Koni's and Ground controls
NGK Iridium plugs
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at least you got in touch with them.
i tried calling for about a week and couldn't get anyone....so i went elsewhere!
Hugo
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98 SVT - 53k mi - SOLD
04 Mazda3 S 5-Dr
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Everyone is assumeing that the 3.5 willmake huge power. Do we even know if the ports on the 2.5L head will support another 1000cc above stock?? The ports on the 3.0L head are quite a bit different from the 2.5L head. I'm pretty sure they also have more port area. I believe the intake manifold has larger ports also. The extra displacement will make big differences in power in the lower RPM ranges, but if the 2.5L can't support the airflow, then there won't be the huge gains up top where the peak power is. Not that that is a bad thing, just something to keep in mind. I now the 3.1L kits for the VR6 were BIG money when they were out. I think they ran in the low $3K range for a forged crank and pistons. I would expect to pay around $4K for the motor. Alot of money. As far as tranny questions go, the MTX75 is a pretty stout gearbox with a Quaife diff in it. It is a good sized tranny for a front wheel drive car. I wouldn't worry about it. Quaife has shown a little interest in doing synchromesh gear kits for the MTX75. There just hasn't been any demand so It is hard for me to push for a production run. Closer ratio gears would make a big difference in acceleration.
Roger
98 SVT E0, Black 3.0L, y- pipe, open air filter, ported lower intake manifold, Quaife diff. 220hp at the wheels through the stock exhaust and manifolds.
Blown motor, help on the way......
97 GTI VR6, Green lots of mods, 205 hp at the wheels
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Close ratio gearsets would help the SVT engine greatly! I have never understood why the SVT uses the same ratio's as a non SVT, since the engine is built to have the powerband in a higher RPM range than a standard Duratec. Close ratio's alone would really help the low to mid range performance of the SVT. 
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I thought quaife did make the gear set for us when they designed one for the focus, it was just $5000 and I just rolled my eyes and went on. . .I saw this about a year ago in a Quaife ad, so check and see if anyone is inerested, I think they went to design with it. . .
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