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O-k...was talking to Terry Haines today after he took my car for a spin. What I know now, but didn't know before I bought my BAT kit, is that the BAT struts, being gas pressurized, are kinda boingy...they hit a bump, then react real fast to expand the strut to its full length (or back to normal) due to the gas charge. Now Konis...are not gas charged, and they don't "assist" the spring and provide "extra" boing to the rebound of the shock. I've noticed as I've been driving, that after hitting a bump, the struts almost come back too fast (hence the boinging). Had I know this...plus the fact that when you adjust the Konis for dampening that you're adjusting the compression and rebound action of the strut, I might just have saved a little more and gone Koni.
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Did the air pressure correction that you noted in the other post take care of the "boingy" feeling that you were experiencing? With that correction, are you still feeling like you should have spent the extra money for Koni's? Just trying to learn as much as I can before I spend $600+ on the suspension
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I just bought the BAT kit. Should I have gone Koni? I still have time to change but not much.
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I guess I should clarify. The BAT kit is very good. Def better than my stock set-up. But my impression of a month of driving is...more Gran Touring than auto-X. It runs flat, no brake dive or acceleration raise. For $600 its great! But TH was talking about $600 for the Koni strut/spring. If they're available...I'd go Koni. My struts had 85,000..and they had to go!
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The Koni setup from Terry is more around ~$750.
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Originally posted by mcgainer: O-k...was talking to Terry Haines today after he took my car for a spin. What I know now, but didn't know before I bought my BAT kit, is that the BAT struts, being gas pressurized, are kinda boingy...they hit a bump, then react real fast to expand the strut to its full length (or back to normal) due to the gas charge. Now Konis...are not gas charged, and they don't "assist" the spring and provide "extra" boing to the rebound of the shock. I've noticed as I've been driving, that after hitting a bump, the struts almost come back too fast (hence the boinging). Had I know this...plus the fact that when you adjust the Konis for dampening that you're adjusting the compression and rebound action of the strut, I might just have saved a little more and gone Koni.
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The Koni's are also gas-charged, and they are single-adjustable. (Rebound only, not compression.) The condition you describe sounds like an over-sprung strut. Surprising. And no-one else has ever noted this of the BAT kit. And yes, when that kit first surfaced, it was said to be "slightly over $600," but now it's at $750 or $775. Hmmm. BAT kit plus Aussie bar, or Koni kit and then more saving?
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Well, I stand corrected on the Gas-charged bit. But I don't see any data in your links about the rebound thing. Did you mean this? Looks like you got me there, too.
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Roger,
Wasn't trying to one-up you on anything, really. I'm just kinda running thru my head if I made the right purchase myself. I have a rule: If you're gonna do/buy something...do it right/buy the best the 1st time around. Never fails that when I settle for something, I end up not happy or satisfied.
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I recall reading that the Koni Sports are low pressure gas units. I have also read they are only adjustable for rebound, not compression. Maybe it depends on which Koni site you've got the info from?!?
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