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H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435469 09/12/02 02:03 AM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 12 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada F FoxEric_dup1 OP New CEG\'er
OP FoxEric_dup1 New CEG\'er F Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 12 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada	Any suggestions? Must be hubcentric and obviously match our bolt pattern/spacing. Thanks. Eric

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435470 09/12/02 02:17 AM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 133 Dearborn Heights, Michigan, US... 2 2deep2_dup1 CEG\'er
2deep2_dup1 CEG\'er 2 Joined: May 2000 Posts: 133 Dearborn Heights, Michigan, US...	Brought mine thru the local Import Parts Store (S&G). Anthony B. Davis 2Deep2 Silver SVT 2002 IASCA SQ Ult Ama 601+ World Champion runner up 2002 SLAP dBQ Champion 2000 USAC SQ World Champion 2002 USACi SQ World Champion

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435471 09/12/02 02:57 AM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,467 Bowie, Maryland A Antonio Wright_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
Antonio Wright_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,467 Bowie, Maryland	Originally posted by FoxEric: Any suggestions? Must be hubcentric and obviously match our bolt pattern/spacing. Thanks. Eric I bought mine from a local shop. Only get them if you really need to. I ran into big problem with mine. JVT knows what I am talking about. -Antonio Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435472 09/12/02 05:27 AM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 46 Glendale, CA K Kristuphir_dup1 New CEG\'er
Kristuphir_dup1 New CEG\'er K Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 46 Glendale, CA	Originally posted by Antonio Wright: Originally posted by FoxEric: Any suggestions? Must be hubcentric and obviously match our bolt pattern/spacing. Thanks. Eric I bought mine from a local shop. Only get them if you really need to. I ran into big problem with mine. JVT knows what I am talking about. -Antonio What kind of problem? A good friend of mine works for them (does their website - a new and vastly improved version will be coming out in a couple of weeks). He seems to think the spacers are no problem, but I've always secretly wondered. BTW, he also promised to look into what sort of European H&R stuff, for the Mondeo etc, might conceivably make it to the States if there was any interest. not to jump topics, but can anyone say real coilovers? christopher '99 SVT Black and stockish - except for the tow hitch, but pretend not to notice it. "I'm just gonna go find a cash machine..."

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435473 09/12/02 02:56 PM
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 768 Lyndhurst, NJ A alex_96GL_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er
alex_96GL_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er A Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 768 Lyndhurst, NJ	In reply to: What kind of problem? [/qoute] if you go away from the factory offset you'll toast the bearings in a heartbeat. I imagine JVT wouldn't want to talk about it agian, though --alex \| 98 SE V6 MTX w/ things

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435474 09/12/02 03:31 PM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,467 Bowie, Maryland A Antonio Wright_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
Antonio Wright_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,467 Bowie, Maryland	Originally posted by alex_96GL: In reply to: What kind of problem? [/qoute] if you go away from the factory offset you'll toast the bearings in a heartbeat. I imagine JVT wouldn't want to talk about it agian, though You are incorrect. My wheel is a 49mm offset. Over the stock brakes that is fine but with 13 inch baers you will have BIG problems. I had to purchuse a 7mm spacer for the wheel to barely clear the caliper and we had to sand the caliper down a little. A few weeks later all 4 lug studs snap on the right side wheel(not while I was driving). So I had to install longer and stronger studs, new hubs and bearings. Total cost for everything around $700. Was it worth it... I think it was! -Antonio Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435475 09/12/02 04:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 768 Lyndhurst, NJ A alex_96GL_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er
alex_96GL_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er A Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 768 Lyndhurst, NJ	In reply to: You are incorrect. I wish... Talk to JVT about that one too --alex \| 98 SE V6 MTX w/ things

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435476 09/12/02 05:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 12 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada F FoxEric_dup1 OP New CEG\'er
OP FoxEric_dup1 New CEG\'er F Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 12 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada	Thanks for all the feedback. I'm asking because of a similar issue with caliper clearance. I have heard various horror stories over the years about spacers, but at the same time it has always seemed to me that adding spacers ideally shouldn't put any more stress on the bearings than a wheel with a smaller offset since that it is effectively what the spacer is doing. Actually, I would think that smaller offsets should help to reduce stress. However that logic only holds as long as the spacer plate is carrying load and not just the bolts (that would now have the load transferred to a longer lever arm - not good). That's one of the reasons I'd want hubcentric so that more of the load would be transferred away from the bolts onto the hub. From Antonio's feedback it sounds like if I do go with plates then I'd better upgrade the bolts at the same time. That all said, my theories about where the load is going could be a pile of trash - other opinions certainly welcomed, especially if it saves me hub work down the road! By the way, I called a local speed shop and they can order them. Thanks. Eric

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435477 09/12/02 05:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS R RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS	Hmmmm. I have a theory. (but I'm no expert...) If you push your stock wheels out 5mm, you have altered the offset and are putting extra stress on the hubs. However, when you buy wider wheels, you'll notice that the offset changes to account for the extra width. As an example, with simplified math, let's say your stock offset is 50mm. You buy wheels 1" wider (25mm), and they have an offset of about 40mm, a difference of almost half of the change in your wheel width. But, let's say you found a +1" width wheel with the same offset as stock. Of course it wouldn't fit, unless you used a spacer to basically give it the offset it should have, in this case a 10mm spacer. I don't see why this would cause any problems with the hub, and the larger offset of the wheel might allow it to clear the caliper, even though the effective offset is right where it should be. Function before fashion. '96 Contour SE "Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998

Re: H&R wheel spacer - where to buy? #435478 09/13/02 02:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 46 Glendale, CA K Kristuphir_dup1 New CEG\'er
Kristuphir_dup1 New CEG\'er K Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 46 Glendale, CA	Originally posted by Antonio Wright: Originally posted by alex_96GL: In reply to: You are incorrect. My wheel is a 49mm offset. Over the stock brakes that is fine but with 13 inch baers you will have BIG problems. I had to purchuse a 7mm spacer for the wheel to barely clear the caliper and we had to sand the caliper down a little. A few weeks later all 4 lug studs snap on the right side wheel(not while I was driving). So I had to install longer and stronger studs, new hubs and bearings. Total cost for everything around $700. Was it worth it... I think it was! -Antonio Hell yes. Your pic reminds me of how damn good your car looks (I saw it at the Richmond meet a what...month and a half, two months ago? The one with the extended trip to the Cracker Barrel). christopher '99 SVT Black and stockish - except for the tow hitch, but pretend not to notice it. "I'm just gonna go find a cash machine..."

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