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Can I e-mail my dyno pictures to someone who has access to a server? I have two pic files. One shows secondaries difference and the other shows before and after. Thanks!


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I'll send you the link afterwards!

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I'll post it for you even... wink laugh


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Thanks Andy! They are on their way! smile


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Koni struts & Eibach springs
24mm Aussiebar
Pro Flow 75mm MAFS calibrated to KKM filter
Wilwood Brake Kit with cross-drilled rotors
Clutchmaster's Stage 1 Clutch & Fidanza Flywheel
Custom Dual Exhaust with an Xpipe
MSDS Headers
Custom Cold Air Intake with KKM filter
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Here you go!




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Thanks again Andy. Okay, here's the story. The first graph is first run vs. last run. Note the nice A/F ratio going off the graph. That explains the wonderful black trim I have around my tailpipes. The final run was with the PCM reflashed with a new program for spark advance and A/F. See how the ratio stays at 13. This is why it is better to dyno tune your car. A chip will not be able to get this accuracy. It's more expensive, but I thought it was worth it.

The second graph shows the difference between the IMRC opening at 3200, 2500, and 3800. I know the earlier and later ones are higher, but this was during the tuning stage. The one at 3500 was before the tuning was finished. The important thing to look at here is the area under the curve. There is no way earlier or later will be better. I know Demon wrote that it may not apply to all cars. If you feel that way, by all means. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. I'm only showing concrete evidence to help people make the right choice. The intake manifolds are tuned to make this happen. They can not handle the change in air at the wrong rpm. I have about all the intake and exhaust mods you can do. I also have a chip which advanced the spark curve and this was the result.

I hope this is helpful to everyone. To reiterate, do whatever you want to your car. As long as you're happy, who cares what the dyno, the track, or anyone says. Happy racing! wink


98 Black E0 #946 of 6535
Koni struts & Eibach springs
24mm Aussiebar
Pro Flow 75mm MAFS calibrated to KKM filter
Wilwood Brake Kit with cross-drilled rotors
Clutchmaster's Stage 1 Clutch & Fidanza Flywheel
Custom Dual Exhaust with an Xpipe
MSDS Headers
Custom Cold Air Intake with KKM filter
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Is the stock one in light green? Looks pretty well placed.

The lower IMRC point could be helped by A/F tuning. Look at how rich it plunged around changeover.


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What type of custom chip do you have? It was flashed for you right on sight? I'd love to find a shop that can do that.

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Nicks,

Thanks for the post. I'm glad to see all the conjecture and hyperbole regarding IMRC opening come to a close with your dyno evidence.

What's amazing to me is how clearly visible the effect of intake resonance on volumetric efficiency (hence power) is. Take a look at your early-stock-late IMRC opening dyno, and it's easy to see how the long runner's efficiency drops off and the short runner's picks up in that transition region. This trend is consistent for all 3 runs. You could easily curve fit a consistent %VE vs RPM curve for each intake path based on your results. All the IMRC changeover point does is decide which %VE curve (long vs short runners) is being used.

Guess this interest shows that I'm a dork engineer, huh? A colleague of mine calls plots like this 'engineering pornography'.

Thanks for the info.

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Bicycle >> I can't say I know where to go in Boulder. I'm lucky here in Michigan b/c the programmer is an ex-Ford employee. Both guys are heavily into cars and both build drag cars.

munson >> be sure to turn off the light in the nerdery when you leave. laugh In all seriousness, thanks for the comments.


98 Black E0 #946 of 6535
Koni struts & Eibach springs
24mm Aussiebar
Pro Flow 75mm MAFS calibrated to KKM filter
Wilwood Brake Kit with cross-drilled rotors
Clutchmaster's Stage 1 Clutch & Fidanza Flywheel
Custom Dual Exhaust with an Xpipe
MSDS Headers
Custom Cold Air Intake with KKM filter
Dyno'd at 177 hp and 156 ft-lbs
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