I'm gonna throw in a few more comments myself
Back in the "old days" the folks on here knew how to give and take, find appropriate humor, and discuss even heated topics rationally. And when a problem w/ the way something was handled came up, it was handled privately between the two affected parties. Also, folks were much more attuned to what was "appropriate" and what wasn't.
The spirit behind the management of this site has not changed in any way. Sure some specific rules have had to be created to handle particular situations, but never has the spirit behind the site changed.
I really don't blame lance for being tempted to throw in the towel, it seems the pissing and moaning over this and that and the other thing has almost gotten to be overwhelming, despite the fact that it is far from the majority of the folks doing the complaining. Bottom line, if you don't like the way something is handled, and you want it changed or some explanation, send a PM or email to Lance, Christy, Perry, or Myself, and discuss the matter privately. We will work w/ you to find an equitable solution in line w/ the scope of the website. If you do not get satisfaction from that activity, please, find another forum to spend your time at rather than pollute this one with useless pissing and moaning.
and a couple of reminders:
1. This is not a porn or sex forum.
2. This is not a singles bar.
3. Research the accumulated knowledge of the group whenever possible (ie SEARCH and the FAQs) before asking an obviously common question.
4. This is not a "free speech" site so to speak, though you may say whatever you wish as long as it doesn't violate forum guidelines. and Lance and Outback Gal have final say on forum guidelines.
5. This is the internet, don't be a wuss, and get all bent out of shape if someone else doesn't agree w/ you. This is where flame wars start.
6. If you don't know what you are talking about on a technical matter, don't offer your opinion as fact, please identify it as your opinion. This is for the benefit of those less technically savvy that cannot filter out the junk. (ie, "I installed a K&N air filter, and I gained 45hp at the wheels!")
7. Don't start or continue personal flaming.
8. In a technical debate, please back your stuff up w/ actual technical information, and not just w/ personal flames and things like "well my car never exploded, so it must gain me 45hp at the wheels"
9. "In B4 Da lock" posts are really lame, and waste bandwidth. Do not even consider making one.
10. Zaino isn't magic, but its easy to use, and gives a good shine if used properly.
11. Meguiar's isn't magic either, but also gives a good shine if used properly.
12. Donations are greatly appreciated to further the site, but only under the assumption that Lance continues to call the shots personally, and owes no-one any favors for said donations to the site.