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Good point Ed...

Hey, Einstein, we've ALREADY got enemies from past decisions and actions that the political and popular leadership of this country made years ago, be they right or wrong. Our financial and military support of Israel in of and by itself ensures that we will have certain Arab extremeist groups hacked off until the cows come home. I'm not even going into our reliance on Middle-Eastern oil, which given the importance to us and our avowed interest in protecting it further solidifies our position in Middle-Eastern affairs. Have we gotten ourselves into one HELL of a mess? Absolutely, and it's one that we are going to have to DIG ourselves out of.Notice I say dig, because we are in a hole over it already. Just sitting there at the bottom of it gets you nowhere.

Listening to Simon and Garfunkle and leaping through fields of daisys while talking isolationism, peace, universal harmony and being totally oblivious to the FACTS at hand might be fun and entertaining after a bad day at work, but it is about as bright and insightful as playing Russian Roulette with a loaded automatic when it comes to international policy that DIRECTLY relates to U.S. security.

Guess the last date we sat on our hands, played gentle, ignored data, intelligence and a number or warnings?

9.11.2001

Next question...

I think that if we do, we need support or approval many of the surrounding countries. Otherwise the whole thing might backlash.

A large number of civilian casualties can be attributed to the despicable and disgusting practice of putting civilians right next to or on top of prime military targets, as Hussein did during Desert Storm. Having said that, war will ALWAYS produce some civilian losses, regardless. There's just no way around it.

As for the report on the depleted uranium issues, I would tend to agree with the author and sources. with as many rounds as we put into bunkers and tanks (most with depleted uranium heads for penetration power), there's bound to be some sort of environmental hazard there. I don't see spent reactor fuel rods being placed in parks and schools, so I'd definitely say the Iraqis have a legitimate gripe there. Shameful, but unfortunately probably very true.

I quite enjoyed the BS about Kuwait being the "economic aggressor" to Iraq. That and the gripe over the land and water dispute. Let's try some common sense here. At the time, Iraq had one of the largest militarys (definintely in the top 10) on the face of the Earth, while Kuwait had, oooooh, probably (and I'm making a rough guess here) about the 249th largest. During the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, massive looting, mass rapings (on an unbelieveable scale) and a number of murders and other crimes were purpotrated on that country's population.

Ah, the benevolent and oppressed Iraqi government. :rolleyes: Christ, this article reads like trying to cannonize Gengis Khan...

Never thought I'd find wisdom from a bumper sticker on a pickup truck, but here goes:

"Kill them all. Let God sort them out."
That is how I feel about Iraq. If you live there and don't want a 2,000lb bomb dropped on your sand castle, you'll start a revolution. Otherwise, you are just one more excuse to pull the trigger.

Okay, I read this whole thread and there are good points from both sides. I would have to agree that the United States right does stick its nose into things we don't need too. It is funny that Bush is saying that IRAQ needs a change in goverment. That is like me coming into your house and saying I am the new father. See what I mean. On the other hand NONE of us know what is really going on. What you see on CNN, and these other news outlets are only a fraction of the truth. Honestly it seems to me that Bush is trying to get the American people as a whole to shift our focus away from the ****ty economy to IRAQ, because he can't fix the problems here. During the Gulf War we had every chance to kill his ass. How come it was not done then?? Oh well whatever happens if I am needed to fight I will, but I will leave it at this.

I don't mind being a pawn, just let me know what the game is.. and I believe we are ALL being used as pawns.

It's too late to butt out of the world's business. We have our roots to deep. We have no choice but to get involved someway.

Since that's out the way....I think it's possible for covert ops to complete the objective without sending the troops in for a ground fight. They will have to be there for clean up and to keep everything stable.

Isn't it ironic that we are questioning the US foreign policy on a car site??

The only reason we are building military bases, patrolling the arab nation's waters, and spying on them is to protect US interests. What is that? OIL

The real reason we even give a damn, is because we are still in the Cold War mentality, that we need to preserve our oil "reserves". We have plenty of oil to last us at least for decades. If we haven't found a better way of transportation by then, shame on us all.

Big oil companies and their lobbyists are the reason for all this nonsense. Not to mention the polititians that agree with them.

Sorry,

-Chris

That's the whole jist of it right there. They should be ashamed of themselves for doing what they do to protect their investments. Most of them should be locked up IMO.

OIL? OIL? Is that what you think this is about? Seriously guys, oil is just a part of it, yeah we have oil for decades and we probably would be okay. But I, for one, an not one to sit idle and wait for an attack which is bound to happen. What, did you think Saddam totally forgot about the Gulf War? Don't you think he'd be a bit vengeful at the U.S.? I know I would be a bit bitter at the country that kicked my ass in 100 hours!He going to attack, accept it! Who , now that is the question.

If I were president for a day, and I had to choose, I wouldn't give them an oppertunity to produce anything except white flags, I ask you all, how can you sleep at night knowing that there is someone out there who hates you, enough to kill his own family to get at you? I think that many of us have the mindset that it is all over there, and it won't happen here, WAKE UP and smell what Saddam is cookin! It ain't eggs and bacon! You all are intitled to an opinion, and I have mine, I don't care if we are the only nation left on the planet, why not "kill 'em all, and let god sort 'em out."