Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Common Interests Should the U.S. attack Iraq?

Not disagreeing with you Jato but it's a massive commitment to take on. I remember the piece about the Iraqi intelligence meeting with Mohammed Atta (sp?) in Germany IIRc but I don't recall anything about Iraq providing logistical support/money etc for the attacks.

I'll be happy when Hussein is taken out but I wonder about the cost in troops. Thats all.

Sincerely..

I know this will piss off a lot of you but why doesn't the U.S. just mind their own business and live happily like any other country in the world. I don't see Canada get attacked by terrorists like the U.S.... I wonder why??? :rolleyes:

What you see in T.V. is not usually whats going on... Why do all these people in the middle east have something against the U.S.?
They weren't just sitting there with the globe in front of them and said lets attack the U.S...
Every action has a reaction :rolleyes:

Just mind your own business. A lot of innocent people are dying because of some idiots decisions at the top and its not fair!

I totally agree that it's a huge committment, but I'm afraid that time's not on our side. It never is with crap like this. I didn't mean to come off harsh (though I usually fail miserably), but I will not deny that I get jumpy about this stuff given our publicly known track record of prevention...

Think of it this way. If you live in certain major U.S. cities, I'm thinking that there's a 50% chance that there's an Al Qaeda cell operating or waiting to be activated within 20 miles of your home...

Scary, no?

Here's to hoping like mad I'm totally wrong.

Consider this point of view?

http://www.geocities.com/iraqinfo/index.html?page=/iraqinfo/gulfwar/overview.html

Is this true? i.e. the setup?

Hey, no offence taken.

I'm just used to living with this (terrorism) a little more than Americans. Growing up in Ireland, you got used to the IRA/INLA/UVF/UFF/ etc blowing stuff up and shooting people all the time.

I was on a train once to Belfast that had a bomb on it. We were off the train it when it went off. Thankfully, no one was killed that time.

Post whoring time!

You're kidding, right!?

This would be akin to putting earplugs and blinders on just before a bear mauling.

As for Arab nations being Oh SO benevolent and level-headed, what in the hell did Kuwait do to Iraq in 1990 when they got invaded, apart from being an extremely wealthy though ill-defended country?

What did Iran do to Iraq when Iraq tore up the Tehran peacy treary and invaded them in 1980?

Shall I remind you of what Egypt and Syria tried to do to Irael in 1973 when they poured into the golan Heights and Siani? (Yes, yes, it was a battle for reclaiming lost Arab land, but if you want to go back far enough, the Israelites have a claim to it that goes back to Biblical times)

The die is cast. We either roll over and just accept the nuclear, biological and terrorist beatings that WILL without a DOUBT come, or we systematically eliminate ANY that even think about sniffing around our back door. If they don't learn, well, I think we've more ammunition than they do raving zealots, no? Statistics are definitely in our favor, especially when we can sail tomahawks through their windows when we find them...

What? Isolationism would turn this country into a sitting duck. I don't mean any disrespect to canadians....but blowing up a bunch of canadians would be pointless. They're not a financial power, military power, or anything. Terrorists are against our way of life. They don't believe in capitalism, or democracy, or freedom even. Their acts are "justified" with cries of revenge or how we have oppressed them in however many ways. It's nothing more than meaningless drivel scribbled on a dinner napkin by some bipolar rich arab with a long beard and lots of money. Jealousy is the reason, believe it or not. If we were to pull out of every country and keep to ourselves we'd have NO warning of the next psychopath to hijack a jet and slam it into a building. Is that what you want? It might not always be the prettiest thing but US involvement might just be for our own safety and protection. Maybe you should leave the leadership to the leaders. And lets not forget the billions of dollars we spend on other countries, feeding other countries people who are starving to death while tyrannical leaders horde all the countries money to buy guns. Cause we're such an oppressive and imperialistic country. :rolleyes: It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Guess that goes with being the ONLY superpower left in the world.

I personally believe Saddam should be "assasinated" by an unknown person. Sometimes it's not that simple.

I'm not a big fan of war. (May shock some since I'm former military, served with a Nuclear missile unit.) But if the decision is to invade, attack, then let it be all out.

No holds barred.

And when we win, we should be benevolent dictators for a generation or two, slowing teaching the children that they are rebuilding a democracy. And transistion Iraq into a true Islamic (if that's what they want) democracy.

What do we get? A source of oil that we can pretty much control.

Many of the current rabble rousers in the Middle East want to blame the West for the poverty in their nations. They use this "class envy" to motivate folks into thinking they have nothing, and nothing to lose in comparison to the West. Not to mention the twisting of religion to further motivate by promises of paradise after death.

I hold no illusions about us having any benevolent interests in the area, it is strictly oil. But there is no reason we can't be a benevolent dictator while we teach them that anyone can prosper by applying themselves.

TB
Done rambling now.

Hmm... You really think they are jealous?
Do you know how many people INCLUDING INNOCENT PEOPLE the U.S. have killed in the middle east...
I suggest you go read a bit before talking from top of your head...
U.S. has done way more things to all those countries and thats what happens when you piss off people not exactly when they get jealous!
I'll bet you life in Iran and Iraq was much better than life in the U.S. about 40 years ago... Let me think again maybe the U.S. was jealous :rolleyes:

Canada can afford to sit back and be fat and happy because it has the United States living next door. If Canada would like to take the lead role in defending the Western Hemisphere from (formerly) Communism and (currently) Islamic fanaticism, be our guests. Defend Israel, secure petroleum access, support third world economies, mediate regional conflicts by way of putting Canadian troops in harms way, guard Tiawan from China, safe guard South Korea from Nort Korea, etc, etc. I would love the tax break.

By the way, how 'bout securing your borders. We're sick of all these friggin' terrorists leaking in to this country by way of Canada.

:rolleyes: