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Surely, Pat put it best:

Why is the West dying? First, for a simple reason, its people are dying. There is not one European country, except Moslem Albania, where the population is not stagnant or falling. In not one European nation are women having enough children to keep the nation alive. In some twenty European nations, there are already more burials than births, more caskets than cradles. Russia is one of them. Second, the dying peoples of European descent are being quickly replaced by immigrants from non-Western nations. Chinese and Islamic peoples will be moving into Siberia, Central Asia and the Caucasus. Arab, African and Islamic peoples are moving into Europe in the hundreds of thousands every year. America is being swamped. We have 35 million Hispanics, and 1.5 million immigrants coming in every year, a third of them illegal aliens, and 90% of them from the Third World. There are 45 million people in our country who do not speak English at home. We face the same Balkanization that pulled the Soviet Union apart.
By 2050, a majority of Americans will trace their ancestry to Asia, Africa and Latin America, not Europe. America will be, predominantly, a Third World country. While these are hard-working good people, they will not preserve the Western heritage, history, heroes, literature, faith or culture. All the subject peoples from the Western colonial empires, from China to Southeast Asia, from India and Pakistan, to Arabia and Africa, are sending their peoples north to invade the Mother Countries of the West. Invading armies go home, immigrant armies do not. The West is being invaded, peacefully, and occupied. Mexicans and even Mexican-Americans talk of a "Reconquista," the recapture of the lands they lost to America in The Mexican War.
Third, the great Catholic writer Hillaire Belloc said: "The Faith is Europe, Europe is the Faith." In Europe and Russia, the Christian faith is dying. In America, Christianity is under assault. Secularism and hedonism, the values of the 1960s, are dominant in our media, culture and education. On issues like abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, pornography, a pagan world view predominates. Our rivers and lakes are being cleaned up, but American culture is being poisoned and polluted. In Europe, the churches -- Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox -- are emptying out, while the mosques are filling up.
Fourth, as President Ronald Reagan warned us: We have forgotten who we are and where we came from. To America's cultural elite, the Crusaders are villains, the great explorers and conquerors of the New World were genocidal racists, our Founding Fathers were evil slaver-owners, the old cowboys and soldiers who won the West are accused of cultural genocide and atrocities against the Indians. The battle flags and the statues of Civil War heroes from the South are being torn down. America's young learn no history at all. Many are ignorant of their past. Our civilization will not survive if we do not know who we are or where we came from, or if we hate those who went before us and gave us all that we have.
Finally, Western countries are surrendering their national sovereignty to transnational institutions. There are powerful ethnic forces pulling apart Britain, Spain, France, Canada. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, the USSR have already broken up. There are secessionist movements even inside Russia. In Western Europe, all the ancient nation-states are selling out their sovereignty and independence to disappear inside a bureaucratic superstate called the EU. This is the great fight that succeeds the Cold War...

Again, FACT, not emotion.


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The fact that Pat is saying that once white populace becomes minority we become a third world country, is biggest BS ever concieved.

Of course Pat would consider me a traitor too for being an atheist..


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Surely some of you may have read of escalating tension in US relations with China. National media has reported consistently, but seems to play down the importance here. Strengthening Anti-US sentiment, military build-up, strong manufacturing base...

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On issues like abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, pornography, a pagan world view predominates.
How can anybody read that and still think Buchanan has any legitemacy? These changes happened well before the influx of Arabs/Mexicans/whatever ethnic group Pat is mad at this week.

If he had just said, "Americans of European descent need to ensure they are passing down knowledge of their heritage to the next generation," it would be cool. Instead he has to rant on and on about how things just aren't the same since they made us take down the Confederate flag from church. His schtick gets old fast.

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Buchanan never blamed the new third world country immigrants for abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, pornography, etc. in America. Where above does it say that?
Also you don't think that abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, pornography, etc, isn't alive and well in third world counries? How about drugs, AIDS, tremendous poverty, child marriages, etc.?


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I think I believe all those crazy alien conspiracies more than Pat Buchanan :rolleyes: .


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Mike, what credentials do you have in the field of economics? or world history? or world politics?

Mr. Keitz I am astounded by your ignorance. Please explore the FACTS before you make wrongful statements like the above!
Dan - I am glad I can astound someone. It is something I try to do on a daily basis. wink

As for facts, it does not seem that there were too many mentioned. Certainly not by Mr. Buchanan.

As for my credentials in the fields you mention. I will copy and paste some of the BIO information from my firm's prospectus:

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Vice President Michael Loren Keitz was one of the youngest men ever to successfully achieve the Series 24 General Securities Principal (GSP) License. The Series 24, the most comprehensive
senior license in the investment industry, is held by only 15% of investment industry professionals.

Additionally, Michael was likely the youngest man, at the age of 22, ever to be selected to open and develop new operations in a major metropolitan area and serve as Vice President for a top 50 national brokerage firm. In addition to his management duties and rendering of investment advice, Michael was directly invloved in the capital market and investment banking activities of his firm.

Additionally Michael has taught Broker and Investment Advisor exam preparation classes and lectured on economic, business and brokerage topics to professional and non-professional audiences including the Pennsylvania Institute of Certified Public Accountants and the Securities Industry Association.

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So it would seem I have a least a few qualifications to speak on the topic.

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Dan, it is evident that you have a limited understanding of a free market economy. Not that the US has such a thing, but it is closer than almost every other country. This thread and the 'Jap Crap' one in Tires & Wheels forum is the basis for this statement. You don't understand the fundementals of the system, just pick and choose some of the details.

Here is some information to help . It does require workers in trades and jobs that are not profitable to learn new skills, but overall the US benefits.

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Oh, yes, I totally understand the free market system. I understand it is bad for the USA.
How else would we have a $500 billion yearly trade deficit? I ask you then, is free trade good? Do the Japanese, Europeans and others play by the same trade rules as us? NO!!!!!
Again, free trade, global economy, etc., is propaganda to beat down American wage rates and to import, cheap exploitable labor to fill jobs domestically. Too many beer guzzling, TV watching Americans have been duped into believing this BS.
Don't think I am supporting our greedy fat-cat corporations, though. They are a big part of the problem.
As for you, Mr. Keitz, I am still not impressed with your credentials, or your knowledge of economics or world events. Your statement about the American autoworker was totally wrong. And that statement about Kosovo was ridiculously without merit.
Have any of you guys actually worked in industry?
Are you aware of the many obstacles that US companies face such as OSHA, EPA and other federal and state regs that are non-existent in most third world countries? Not that these are totally bad, but they represent financial burdens that most foreign factories do not have to deal with. Does that Mexican autoworker get 2 weeks paid vacation, good health insurance and a savings and pension plan? How about liability insurance and litigation costs? Got a complaint about a product in China and you probably be sent to the labor camp.
The bottom line? The playing ground is far from level for US based companies.


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Also for your further enlightenment, please read the below link. I guess about 60+ members of Congress feel as Pat Buchanan and me.

Unbelievable Immigration Stories


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