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Also,,,, When I was in 4th grade saying the pledge, I had no idea what I was saying and I doubt the kids really understand what the hell is coming out of there mouth, There just saying what there soposta. laugh

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Screw that....this has got to be the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my entire life. The pledge of allegiance unconstitutional!? I can't even believe a judge in any US court even presided over this garbage! I would have laughed the guy out of the court room! This country was founded on certain beliefs....beliefs that many of us have lost friends and relatives for. Friends and relatives that fought bravely and died honorably for them. They might not coincide with every tom dick and harry's religion or liberal (BS) opinion...but they've kept this country around for hundreds of years! If these people have a problem with it, might I recommend a plane ticket to another country? Seriously, I don't even have and specific religious beliefs...you think I care our pledge mentions God? I said the pledge every day before school...twice daily during the gulf war and I'm damn proud of it. I'll bet money this guy is a 97lb pale, pasty white, sniveling pansy with a big mouth and something to say about everything. These liberal pieces of crap need to be placed because this crap is getting out of hand! Seriously, what's next!? I'll tell you one thing, the pledge for this country will NEVER change. Anyone who puts into motion a ruling to change it would be committing career suicide...

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This country was founded on certain beliefs.
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Yea. And one of the most basic of these beliefs was separation of church and state. (Please if you want to know the beliefs that this country was based upon, you should at least leaf through a copy of the U.S. Constitution). And from what I learned in my history classes, I am pretty sure that it was not only Christians who died for this country.

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If these people have a problem with it, might I recommend a plane ticket to another country?
Um, it seems to me that YOU are the one who has the problem with the decision of one of the highest courts of this nation. Maybe YOU should be buying a plane ticket for YOURSELF.

If you want to go to a country where worship is obligatory, you might want to check out Vatican City or maybe Saudi Arabia or Iran, among others. You won't see many 97 pound Moslem wekalings refusing to face Mecca when everyone else does. Maybe we should institute floggings in America for anyone who refuses to pledge allegiance to God in school.

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EVERYONE has a right to REFUSE to say ANYTHING! That is not the issue that I see. I dont NOT agree with the fact that this guy goes out and pubically voices his beliefs on others, even takes it to the courts to have it deemed "unconstitutional". I'm sorry to say but the US goverment needs to get some balls!
I believe the ONLY reason why this is happening is to give everyone (news, media) something to talk about!

I'm am from England, and if any of the Indians, pakistanies, arab or however tried to make the the British national anthem "unconstitutional" (There is a part which states "God save the queen") They would be ridden out of the country!!!!! END OF STORY! There is NO way a court would bend over and grab it's ankles like this Court did in California! This IS the United States of America. It is a great country and I love it here. I may not agree with some things, but who hasn't got there opinions on things, right? And I would certainly not go to a court to have something that has been with Americans for half a centry to have it banned! BS!

This guy needs to get the **** out of this country if he doesn't like it.


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