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"If you late apex every corner on an autocross course, you will be right 90% of the time and comfortably in control 100% of the time. Then you eventually learn when the exception to the rule is (when to an early apex.) Late is the baseline." - a famous muti National Championship winning autocrosser.

What is "Late Apexing?"

As you drive around a corner at an autocross or on a race track, there is some point at which you are nearest the inside edge of the turn. A perfectly even line around a corner will locate that apex in the exact center of the curve. A "Late Apex" means you are nearest to the inside edge at a point somewhat beyond the theoretical midpoint. An "Early Apex" has you nearest the inside edge at a point before the theoretical midpoint of the curve.

With a Late Apex, you can accelerate out of the corner earlier instead of having to wait until you get mostly around it to begin to feed in the gas. With a Late Apex you can start feeding in the gas before you actually reach the corner apex. That's critical to good lap times because the longer you are on the gas, the shorter your lap times are.

Late Apexing means you actually begin to turn later. The usual novice error is to turn too early (execute an "Early Apex"). This forces you to delay throttle application at the exit of the corner because you are turning more to keep from driving off the outside.

To do a Late Apex, you enter the corner in a little deeper, brake a little harder, wait to turn in, bend the car into the turn, get on the gas a little sooner, and accelerate out. Its important to give up a little speed going in to enable you to stand on it exiting. Remember, Slow in, Fast out!

And to do this, you have to be looking ahead - way ahead. If you're not looking out the side windows of your car at an autocross, you're not looking far enough ahead.

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Hey John you get extra points for looking out the back window I have done that a few times last season !

I have noticed and have been "WORKING" on going in deeper and WISER before I brake.
I have stopped trying to set the land speed record between turns. I am trying to trail brake and not really get off the gas too much to keep rpm and monentum up. Just break hard going in and ride the brake out while staying on the gas.
As I run the turn I can feel the rear of the car and with more or less brake pressure can rotate the car. When I want to rotate the car just tap on brakes the nose dives and she just go in "that chosen" direction between the cones.

I know sounds like BS "Feel the car" but I heard plenty of guys talk about it and just in my last two to three races I am comfortable with the car and my racing to feel its movements not just dodge cones like my first half of last years season.

I have also noticed by doing this I am able to stabilize the car sooner and not spin the front inside tire as much!

Our last three races were in the rain and this helped VERY much! I never ran better in our overall pax scores and the car was VERY stable and controllable even in the standing water on the course. I guess by spreading the the loads on the front tires over a longer peroid of time I did not surpase the available traction offered by the tires in the wet. I read someware that there is a theory about tire loading that did not make much sence to me 8 months ago but it know makes a little since.

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-LOOK AHEAD-

That's the best advice I've heard so far. I've been a student of race driving for a long time and even karted as a kid and raced national level jetskis until just a few years ago. Thought I had all the book learning done. Just needed to practically apply it. "Look ahead", my first instructor. "I am", I thought. "NO....Over there!", she said, pointing out the side window. That's when it hit me. I'd read about it before, but until you really look beyond the hood, you'll never go fast. I remember the first time I finally "saw" a baseball pitch. I'd been swinging at them for years, and hit quite a few. Then one day it's like they take the blindfold off. Alot of games I'd forget to "see" the ball and just go up and hack away. That's why it never went past high school. Many times I'll hit the track and not look ahead. Guess I'll never be a Senna. But when you get either right. You know it instantly and the satisfaction is immediate.



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2001 KY Region and Tri-Region STS Champion

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