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Originally posted by bxd20: Yes Dan, I'm aware of that statistic.
So let's just use 20% as the number for a stock setup. That means with Wilwoods, maybe you're now at 15%; just a guess, but the point is, it will be less. And because it's less, during braking in a corner, the car will exhibit more oversteer tendencies.
Just stating a fact. It shouldn't be enough to be scary/dangerous, but I'd imagine it would be noticeable. Might even make it easier to blast through short corners be power sliding.  I think what you getting at is more a result of weight transfer than brake size or brake bais. More of a suspension issue. Anyways, these brakes and this car will be headed to Portand International raceway in three weeks. I'll give you a full report then. 
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Shawn what kind of wheels are those? They look great! 
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Shawn,
What do you mean by shims?
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would the stock front brakes fit on the rear?
93 5.0 lx notchback
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Increasing the ability of the front brakes is the most effective way to slow the car. While the car may have more stopping power the attitude of the car (suspension) will more dictate the oversteer of it. Being able to stop deep may put the weight up front sooner and more nose dive may be in order, but given that the rears won't lock up and skid and that most FWD cars reak of understeer, this can be in fact a bit of a help!
I've done a rear kit for the car too and it's harder as you certainly don't want to have them lock up. Want the car to stop better AND use the rear brakes more? Put two of you best buddies in the back seat and sand bags in the trunk.
Oh, and the shims are the spacers to fit the alternate calipers to the same bracket. Each of them has different size 'ears' and thus need to be centered on the rotor.
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Shaun, did you get to measure braking distances between the BAER's and your new Wilwoods? I'm curious as to how much better the new brakes are against your old ones.
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I'm sure the "tactile" improvements in pedal feel and modulation are there. The unsprung weight reduction is a great benefit to this kit as well.. eases the suspension's job!
Shaun, did you go for a different pad coumpound on the WIlwood brakes? That would account for a large part of the difference as well.. I know the pads that came with my Baer kit were great for the street, but wanted to fade at the track...
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Doin, I did not measure the stopping distance on either my stock brakes or my Baer kit. I wish I had. Big brake kits make the biggest difference at the track where fade become the main issue.
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Originally posted by Pascal:
I'm sure the "tactile" improvements in pedal feel and modulation are there. The unsprung weight reduction is a great benefit to this kit as well.. eases the suspension's job!
Shaun, did you go for a different pad coumpound on the WIlwood brakes? That would account for a large part of the difference as well.. I know the pads that came with my Baer kit were great for the street, but wanted to fade at the track... I'm using the tan pad now. I may get another set of pads for track days but we will see. I noticed you have a GTI. Cool car, how does it handle?
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Cool, but looks like almost 30% of the rotor is unused as a braking surface..
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