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Hello fellow Michigan CEG'rs,

Went to chip burning/EFI specialist (Detroit speedworks) and the owner (Greg) went for a drive with me this morning with a complete OBD-II scanner, so he could check what codes were being thrown and what the engine was seeing during operation. Whenever I got on the throttle, part or full, the timing advance would be thrown back down to 0 or even less sometimes from being in the 20's or so. It would then go back to normal... eventually. We did our testing in 3rd/4rth/5th gear driving - he looked at knock sensor and it didnt show any counts the whole time driving, he reviewed IAT temp - read about 90 degrees and only went up went waiting at light. Engine temp stayed constant at 192 degress - so its something built in to the code. He theorized it was factory built in timing retard to prevent pinging when accelerating. He mentioned too that late model s/c lightnings have this as well but they have so much torque that you never notice the timing retard. What do you guys think about this? How does all this sound?, any experience? Any advice? Thanks in advance!


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So is he making a chip for our cars that actually WORKS or what? By the way, how is the car looking? cool

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Hey Roger,

Greg says once a person named Mike is done working on the program for Vortech, that it will be available to us - he realistically estimates 3 weeks. I believe the cost is 250.00+each hour dyno-tuning (125.00/first hr). He says one of the things he does (for s/c Lightnings anyway) is to take away that annouying ingintion retard from the factory.
He looks like he knows alot about fuel injection and performance. Thats about all I can say about his chips (AutoLogic). Hey, does anyone have any ideas on what I found out by my little drive with him? Thanks!


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So let me get this straight...he puts our car on the dyno and then makes the chip? If thats the case I gotta wait till I get the true duels and then have him burn my chip. I stay in touch with you on this Chris and thanks for the info cool

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Hook up a A/F meter for the test,if the timing is retarded then it should 'lean out' also along with an increase in exhaust feedgas temps.


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