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Unless a large-scale war breaks out in the middle east, cutting off oil supply, we'll never see high performance diesel engines.
Car manufacturers will not invest R&D and manufacturing money into car engines that sell at a glacially slow pace and into engines which can not run on fuels currently available to consumers.
The oil & gas companies will never invest the millions, even billions it would cost to clean up diesel to Euro specs, given that it accounts for a very, very small slice of their profit pie.
It's a vicious circle, where low demand for the cars keeps demand low for diesel. It would take perhaps literally earth shattering changes to occur in the global economy before we saw a Ford Taurus TDL 5-spd capable of 130 mph, 50 MPG, and 0-60 times of under 9 seconds.
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Sell gas at $5 a gallon then you would see a switch to diesel cars....darn quick!
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thats why diesel is so popular here!
the price of petrol is stupid. Diesel is just as stupid, but you get a heck of a lot more miles to the gallon!
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Around here (L.A. area) diesel costs more than gas.
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Originally posted by EO1702:
Unless a large-scale war breaks out in the middle east, cutting off oil supply, we'll never see high performance diesel engines.
Car manufacturers will not invest R&D and manufacturing money into car engines that sell at a glacially slow pace and into engines which can not run on fuels currently available to consumers.
The oil & gas companies will never invest the millions, even billions it would cost to clean up diesel to Euro specs, given that it accounts for a very, very small slice of their profit pie.
It's a vicious circle, where low demand for the cars keeps demand low for diesel. It would take perhaps literally earth shattering changes to occur in the global economy before we saw a Ford Taurus TDL 5-spd capable of 130 mph, 50 MPG, and 0-60 times of under 9 seconds. This is referring of course to the US of A. Europe has many fine cars powered by diesel engines right up to and including the S Class. Still not convinced ?? How about the Alpina D10 ? 245bhp & 368lb/ft and a touch under 160mph for a top speed.
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Mondeo MK1 & MK2 (93-2000) were available with an old-generation 1.8l turbo diesel. 90hp. The engine/transmission would probably be a drop in into a contour. But you wouldn't want one, trust me. They are slooooooooooooow. One reason for poor sales of the Mondeo MK2 toward the end of its career was the lack of a modern diesel engine.
The good stuff did not arrive until the 2.0 l 130 hp TDCi in the MK3 Mondeo, available from the 2002 model year on I believe. It has 330 Nm torque @ 1800 RPM. I test drove one and was quite impressed. They move.
Cost of fuel certainly is an issue over here in Germany. 1 L of normal fuel is around 1 USD. 1 L of Diesel is around 80 cents. However, the annual tax on the diesel is a lot higher, and the 2.0 TDCi is the most expensive engine in the Mondeo lineup, actually more expensive than the V6 Duratec.
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I AM convinced. If I could get my next car as a wagon or hatch with a direct-injection turbo diesel and a manual gearbox, I'd bite. When the wife retires her 99 Corolla in a few years, we'll need another car. (SVT stays...forever  Mazda 6 wagon/hatch would be nice with the above specs. Squirt it silver, gimme leather and a sunroof, and you can take my order right now. Anyone at Ford listening??
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