I have a mandrel bender but getting the right size is kinda hard, and it cost alot for the friken bender thingy, any way if you get them bent or you would like to give it a shot come by I can look at what you need done.. 408-926-8830 oh and by the way we did fmr12b's Y pipe, and I never heard any complaint.. but we do normally do only vw's, by the way mystical I thought you were gonna call me on your lady's car?