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About to do the whole Zaino treatment, clay bar and all. But I've got some swirl marks I'd like to get rid of as well so I went ahead and bought the 3M swirl remover. The question is, should I use it before or after the clay bar?
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After! The clay bay eliminates the crud on your car.
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Hmm, I thought before. The clay bar after will pick up and leftover crud from the 3M stuff.
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Hmm, I thought before. The clay bar after will pick up and leftover crud from the 3M stuff. Umm you would want to clay the car before because you need the surface as smooth as you can get it. Remember you can use either of the 3m products( light or dark) it does not matter. -Antonio
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I concur with my fellow MD-ers.
The crud you are removing isn't the leftover 3M, it's the crud from acid rain, bird droppings, water marks, etc......
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Thanks guys. After is will be 
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Originally posted by Moe:
The crud you are removing isn't the leftover 3M, it's the crud from acid rain, bird droppings, water marks, etc...... But wouldn't such crud be rubbed out with the 3M stuff anyway? I've never used it, although need to and plan to this spring. Just want to make sure.
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But wouldn't such crud be rubbed out with the 3M stuff anyway? I've never used it, although need to and plan to this spring. Just want to make sure. No, all a swirl remover does is fills swirls. It really does not get "rid" of them. By using the 3m first all your doing is filling the swirls with dirty paint which make the swirl marks more pronounce. Now by claying the car before the 3M you are creating a smooth surface.. well as smooth as you can get for a daily driver. With the smooth service the 3M will be able to fill the swirls perfectly. -Antoino
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Meguiar's ScratchX works better than anything else I've ever seen. The 3M stuff is overpriced crap, it didn't do a damn thing for me.
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Meguiar's ScratchX works better than anything else I've ever seen. The 3M stuff is overpriced crap, it didn't do a damn thing for me. :rolleyes: Dude, don't speak unless you know what in the hell you are talking about. -Antonio
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