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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
Uselss adults would do this infront of there children.(which they already do so now.
So legalizing would affect that how??
And cigarette smokes irritates many, it's legal.
The government could limit its use to the home or to special bars. Obviously we don't need people walking around getting high anywhere/everywhere (just as we don't need them walking around getting drunk).
In las vegas you can walk the strip while drinking alcohol.
Cigarette smoke does irritate people.
Weed gets people high, that isn't an irritation. That is a temporary affect over a drug. Way too different to compare there. Too many people on medication which would cause them to get worse beng around this drug. Antidepressents/anxiety
1/5 amercians are on this medication. Seretonane would be affected casueing temporary affect of panic attacks, which would cripple this indivdual for a short period of time. From 1 hour to 5 days. Matters how severe there panic attacks are.
Overall there is no way to contain this drug from affecting others.
No way for this drug to be legalized.
And yes the goverment is trying to get everyone to quit smoking cigarettes.
What makes you think they will be legalizing this.
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Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
And yes the goverment is trying to get everyone to quit smoking cigarettes.
If you believe this, you might be high right now.  With the amount of tax dollars cigarette sales bring in, not to mention the billions of dollars the tobacco companies donate to various PACs during the year, there's NO WAY they want people to quit... why dry up that constant source of $$$$$?
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Originally posted by TGO:
The truth is that you're not going to instantly die as soon as you touch the stuff. But you can and most likely will become addicted. You will isolate yourself from your friends. You will take out your angers and frustrations from the moodswings on your family. You WILL piss away your savings in a rather short period of time. And it just keeps bleeding over into your normal life. You forget to pay some bills...you keep putting off getting things done. It turns into a mess.
Is this about MJ or Extasy?
Becuase MJ has an extremly low addiction rate, much lower the H, coke, and especially alcohol. Piss thru your savings? I know people that pay like $100 or an oz. and it will last them a month. Hell, I have spent $100 in booze in one night in Vegas (with other people, so buying rounds). Also, there is barely any withdrawel problem with MJ as compared to the other items listed above. Ever see an alcoholic come down, the skakes, sweating, DT's in genereal. Never mind someone coming down from H, that's a messy thing to see.
I wish I could smoke again, but my job is much more important. I used to smoke becuase I HATED waking up the next day after a good night of partying and have the sh!ts, possible throwup, dry mouth, rot gut, not to mention bad breath. I hate drinking even more now that I am older.
Also you mention isolation from your friends. Man, smoking is what used to get me and my friends together. There was nothing better the doing some Stripe Bass fishing in Boston harbor while smoking a few doobs, or playing a round of golf. Aahhh, the good OLD days.
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Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
Overall there is no way to contain this drug from affecting others.
No way for this drug to be legalized.
uh, how about "not allowed to use in public"? sounds pretty reasonable to me. and for those arguing the "well what about the kids!!!". parents who use any kind of drug around their kids is pretty foolish, and bad parenting IMO. I wouldn't recommend getting plastered at a bar and coming home to little tommy, who just wet himself, and daddy throws a big temper tantrum, but parents do it all the time.
and if someone lights a joint around you, and it bothers you, remove yourself from the situation, just like an asthmatic would leave if someone was smoking cigarettes around you.
everyone can have their own opinions on this issue, but don't start grasping at straws just to shut someone else down. I personally don't approve of people getting so drunk they black out, or go streaking, or kill someone and have no recollection of it the next morning, but I'm not trying to ban alcohol. people start drinking too much, I'm leaving because things will get out of hand. my friend is driving me around and he sparks a joint? I'll take a cab home, thank you.
it all comes down to responsibility and self control. many Americans don't have either of these qualities, at least not enough of it, but you can't let that restrict people. you have to give them the benefit of the doubt, and if they screw up, they go to jail, that's been a pretty common theme in America.
oh yea, and to the individual doing the whole "I'm trying to bring this to the moderator's attention!!!". we have a "report to moderator" button, it works pretty well from what I understand.
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Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
Cigarette smoke does irritate people.
Weed gets people high, that isn't an irritation. That is a temporary affect over a drug. Way too different to compare there. Too many people on medication which would cause them to get worse beng around this drug. Antidepressents/anxiety
1/5 amercians are on this medication. Seretonane would be affected casueing temporary affect of panic attacks, which would cripple this indivdual for a short period of time. From 1 hour to 5 days. Matters how severe there panic attacks are.
Overall there is no way to contain this drug from affecting others.
No way for this drug to be legalized.
And yes the goverment is trying to get everyone to quit smoking cigarettes.
What makes you think they will be legalizing this.
It is almost impossible to get a "contact" high from MJ, it's been stated in many articles (will find them if needed). So the chances of affecting someone on meds is almsost impossible.
BTW, does everyone know that we already have the same canibinoids that are in MJ in our system.
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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
we have a "report to moderator" button, it works pretty well from what I understand.
Yes it does. So far, there is nothing wrong with the civil dilogue in this thread in my opinion. As some else stated further up, and as I have said many times in the past, you a free not to click on a topic you have issues with.
Thanks for keeping it civil and carry on.
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Rickson, I have no idea how much it must impact your life to have a severe allergy. However, the issues that you have with the smoking of marijuana is no different than the issues some people with severe food allergies have. Unfortunately, it is not feasible to make the world hypoallergenic.
Might as well outlaw public sales fresh roasted peanuts if we are going to use allergans as a reason to ban things.
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Originally posted by Bill J. at Team Ford:
Is this about MJ or Extasy?
bill, are you reading??
Originally posted by TGO:
amphetamines
i am pro weed 
Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
Too many people on medication which would cause them to get worse beng around this drug. Antidepressents/anxiety
1/5 amercians are on this medication. Seretonane would be affected casueing temporary affect of panic attacks, which would cripple this indivdual for a short period of time. From 1 hour to 5 days. Matters how severe there panic attacks are.
Overall there is no way to contain this drug from affecting others.
No way for this drug to be legalized.
Well, if it were legalized like alcohol where you could only use it in a bar, or designated spot - or in your house...then why would anyone who was allergic or on meds be affected?? Just don't go to the smoking bar!
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Originally posted by TGO:
But you can and most likely will become addicted. You will isolate yourself from your friends. You will take out your angers and frustrations from the moodswings on your family. You WILL piss away your savings in a rather short period of time. And it just keeps bleeding over into your normal life. You forget to pay some bills...you keep putting off getting things done. It turns into a mess.
i hope this isnt talking about weed...while there probably is a small minority of people that will, there are far more that won't.
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Originally posted by 00SVT:
Originally posted by RicksonGracie:
And yes the goverment is trying to get everyone to quit smoking cigarettes.
If you believe this, you might be high right now. With the amount of tax dollars cigarette sales bring in, not to mention the billions of dollars the tobacco companies donate to various PACs during the year, there's NO WAY they want people to quit... why dry up that constant source of $$$$$?
Keep the insults to ur self "you might be high right now". Keep this conversation civil or do not post man. Seriously.
So you are telling me the goverment works around laws to keep there wealth only needing cigarette tax? lol
Our goverment can find another way to make that money come to them trust me. This cigarette tax just fell into there lap and they took advatage of it. Just wait till you seee in a couple years the goverments new fat tax(fast food tax will be on every fast food including soft drinks). It will take the place of cigarette tax. If you search you will find cities are all ready enforcing it. This past year they grossed an annual 500 bilions dollars. Seems to be taking the place already you think?
Cigarette sales are down the way. The lowest it has been in 20 years.
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